Jowl Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 19 hours ago, r8frazer said: The phrase ‘Chansiri out’ is complete nonsense. He owns the club - he can’t leave. He is either bought out or the club ceases trading and no longer exists. Unless I’ve missed something nobody is queuing up to buy us, so it’s a total impossibility at present. Any prospective replacement for DC would have to meet his valuation of the club AND repay all debts owed to Chansiri i.e. funds injected via loan notes. Can’t see that happening any time soon. Not defending DC himself as he’s making clear making bad choices but to turn on him is a mistake. If he chose to cut his losses we wouldn’t have a football club. Come on, you're cleverererer than that. People said the same about Allen, Mandaric etc. Obvisouly he won't just walk away. BUt he can sell up. Best thing would be to get someone in to manage the club properly. Chansiri can make his money back when we're in the prem. We'll never get there with the current management structure of him doing everything and Carlos failing badly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Regarding the chairman you are completely out of line. Tough decisions he has had to make. He has made them for the club. Nobody can please everyone. Unless there is a better option than our current chairman back him. Without any replacements at all never mind the finances he has and put into the club and continues to do so. Calling for his resignation (he can't be sacked) is the worst possible outcome for any swfc supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 14 minutes ago, Jowl said: Seasoned businessman in 3 year learning curve? How long is the curve - it's longer than Dave Jones' Evidently so. Things aren't so bad and I've experiened far worse. It'd take Dave Allen level madness for me to turn my back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We'llNeverBeMastered Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, hirstys_achilles said: Regarding the chairman you are completely out of line. Tough decisions he has had to make. He has made them for the club. Nobody can please everyone. Unless there is a better option than our current chairman back him. Without any replacements at all never mind the finances he has and put into the club and continues to do so. Calling for his resignation (he can't be sacked) is the worst possible outcome for any swfc supporter. I can't stand the bloke. Hope this helps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, Ryan the owl said: I can't stand the bloke. Hope this helps. Not really. He might not like you. Personalities aside Anyone who puts millions of pounds into my beloved football club can be disliked by everyone. He still a top bloke as far as I am concerned. How can any supporter dislike a guy willing to do this for SWFC. He certainly not making any money from SWFC. Come on wednesdayites !! back the guy regardless of personal judgements on his personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Read Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 20 hours ago, Apple said: The performanes on the pitch - can't argue. Time for Carlos to go now. But Chansiri? Are you mad? Pricing fans out of games - Season ticked sales and attendances beg to differ. Sometime in life you can't afford things. You have no god given right to be allowed to go to matches on the cheap. Pricing businesses out. Corporate is a shambles. - Evidently so. I don't know enough about this one. Retails is awful. - It's been bad, agreed. But he's hitting his own pocket, so he's not doing it intentionally. Learning curve for him. Charging more than ever for a shirt that we can't put on sale till mid-season. No sign of away or anniversary shirts. - My view on affordability, see above. Learning curve on the shirts, see above. Ruined the 150th anniversary after promising lots of celebrations - and a big team friendly. - Over zealous in announcements, learning curve. Doesn't listen to anyone and refuses to sack carlos - Unquantifiable statement. He doesn't answer to anyone so how can he refuse to sack him? Forced out a club legend and his profilic striker son (Hirst must also take some blame) - Hirst(s) must take most of the blame. Chansiri out? Get a grip. Had we been top of the league all you'd listed wouldn't be cared about by the majority in my opinion. Agree with some of this, but very disappointed that you defended his pricing. As someone who has been priced out of Hillsorough, I don't expect to have a divine right to go and watch Wednesday. But I don't expect to pay a top-end Premier League club price, for mid-table, boring football. Huddersfield Town are a great example of this, my dad is a Town fan. £170 for a season ticket last year for him to watch exciting football and see them get promoted. I didn't realise it was a god-given right to go and show your support for your team for a reasonable price on a Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 22 hours ago, Jowl said: Have gone backwards since season 1 - on and off the pitch. Despite spending millions Carlos gone from exciting attacking football to dull, predicatble and pedestrian stuff without any style or tempo. Or even looking like winning Chansiri is worse. Pricing fans out of games. Pricing businesses out. Corporate is a shambles. Retails is awful. Charging more than ever for a shirt that we can't put on sale till mid-season. No sign of away or anniversary shirts. Ruined the 150th anniversary after promising lots of celebrations - and a big team friendly. Doesn't listen to anyone and refuses to sack carlos Forced out a club legend and his profilic striker son (Hirst must also take some blame) I won't be getting a season ticket next season for the 2nd time in 31 years. Once under Allen - now because a) I likely can't afford it and b) You're ruining our club with no regard for the fans, 5/10 flounce - because everything swfc is half hearted You aren't alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Jowl said: Seasoned businessman in 3 year learning curve? How long is the curve - it's longer than Dave Jones' Longer than the eyelashes on that comedy rimming owl on the back of the Lep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 @Jowl why don't you make him an offer I'm sure you can support the contracts the players have while continuing to invest in us. Good luck I hope it all works out for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r8frazer Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 16 hours ago, Jowl said: Come on, you're cleverererer than that. People said the same about Allen, Mandaric etc. Obvisouly he won't just walk away. BUt he can sell up. Best thing would be to get someone in to manage the club properly. Chansiri can make his money back when we're in the prem. We'll never get there with the current management structure of him doing everything and Carlos failing badly Under Mandaric the club was for sale at a reasonable price for a good sized Championship club. Chansiri would want his money back for what he paid MM plus he would want out what he’s put in via loan notes at the very least. I expect that would make us look very poor value. Throw in the potential FFP complications on the horizon and I don’t think the club could be sold right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIPPS_S.W.F.C Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I blame it on the stripes and badge change!!! Brought us bad luck and lost our identity...if we get them back we get our mojo back Mr Chansiri !!!open your eyes and look at the light!!!! WAWAWAWAWAWAWAW... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aingarth Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I think the Chairman and owner needs some good executive support. Football is unlike any other business as it is a single product company and the product is 100% dependent on the performance of employees. It is also very closely aligned to the local culture and economy so extremely tricky for a Thai businessman to succeed without very good advisors. In my my view he needs people on the board with:- 1 Serious English football experience-both managing the game and managing a club 2 A real understanding of Sheffield, its people and culture and especially the local economy He may make some money eventually if we get to and succeed in the top division. At present, if he sold the club, he would make a thumping loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 On 09/12/2017 at 19:32, Jowl said: Have gone backwards since season 1 - on and off the pitch. Despite spending millions Carlos gone from exciting attacking football to dull, predicatble and pedestrian stuff without any style or tempo. Or even looking like winning Chansiri is worse. Pricing fans out of games. Pricing businesses out. Corporate is a shambles. Retails is awful. Charging more than ever for a shirt that we can't put on sale till mid-season. No sign of away or anniversary shirts. Ruined the 150th anniversary after promising lots of celebrations - and a big team friendly. Doesn't listen to anyone and refuses to sack carlos Forced out a club legend and his profilic striker son (Hirst must also take some blame) I won't be getting a season ticket next season for the 2nd time in 31 years. Once under Allen - now because a) I likely can't afford it and b) You're ruining our club with no regard for the fans, 5/10 flounce - because everything swfc is half hearted Get a group of fans who are willing to sell their Houses, Pension schemes, use all their savings and take out massive loans and then you can buy the club and run it as you see fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, adelphi1867 said: Get a group of fans who are willing to sell their Houses, Pension schemes, use all their savings and take out massive loans and then you can buy a Club 1867 membership Fixed it for ya Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 OK, DC's dropped many clangers but let's hope he's learnt. He must let experts do Recruitment (and I don't mean Doyen). That's been our main problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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