Past Member Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Owling said: So would Hutchinson. Yep no doubt Hutchinson wants FF back too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Newsome Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 FF is one of the only players who can create something out of nothing, the other 2 are sat in the stands every week in Matias and Abdi. Sad to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, zzmdu said: Yep no doubt Hutchinson wants FF back too. and no doubt you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 The only player we own that can beat his marker. Let that sink in. That is a truly shocking fact. How the roger can you assemble a squad of players given the amount of money we have spent and only have one player that can do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Just now, Jamie_W said: If you think the problems of our side are all fixed by FF returning then you don't understand the problem. He might get some goals, he might turn a few draws into wins, but he won't alter our managers tactics/motivational skills, our awful recruitment or our bloated, un-balanced squad. If we get a new manager and reorganise the squad, then he's a big deal, at the moment he'd just get lost in the mire. Turning draws into wins would solve the problem. This is the exactly the problem. No ones saying FF is the only answer, but he's a massive miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 minute ago, zzmdu said: Turning draws into wins would solve the problem. This is the exactly the problem. No ones saying FF is the only answer, but he's a massive miss. He'll come back and get sent off after about 20 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersiggi Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) Where do you think Carlos will fit FF into his rigid 4-4-2 structure? I personally think he's more effective wide left and cutting but that would mean dropping Reach around so that won't happen. He'll do a square peg / round hole job and stick him up front. Sadly I don't have any confidence in Carlos to get the best out of any of our players. Edited November 25, 2017 by supersiggi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlsfaninNorway Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 hour ago, IstillhateSteveBould said: Save us from this poo . You seem to forget that Carlos can't utilize a player for candy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 hour ago, zzmdu said: Having our top scorer of the last 2 seasons would help, though wouldn't it? Regardless of who managers the team. You tell us. How would you use him? Play him with Hooper, knowing that neither Hoops nor Nando can score when played as a two? or Plsy him with Joao, Fletch or Rhodes, thereby losing Hooper's goals? or Play him wide, thereby adding his goals to those of Hooper & Partner? Because that's the dilemma. Carlos is likely to pair Hooper and FF, and that's never worked. If you think we don't score enough now, just wait for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 16 minutes ago, Holmowl said: You tell us. How would you use him? Play him with Hooper, knowing that neither Hoops nor Nando can score when played as a two? or Plsy him with Joao, Fletch or Rhodes, thereby losing Hooper's goals? or Play him wide, thereby adding his goals to those of Hooper & Partner? Because that's the dilemma. Carlos is likely to pair Hooper and FF, and that's never worked. If you think we don't score enough now, just wait for that! yep our top goalscorer (last 2 seasons) returning will make us score less. HolmOwlnomics. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Walt said: The only player we own that can beat his marker. Let that sink in. That is a truly shocking fact. How the roger can you assemble a squad of players given the amount of money we have spent and only have one player that can do this? Beggars belief doesn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 2 hours ago, IstillhateSteveBould said: Save us from this poo . Might be on his bike in the January window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Surely now, given that Forestieri has not played all season bar Preston, we can put to bed the myth that Forestieri up front is the problem. one of the main problems is that we setup defensively and employ fairly negative tactics especially away from home (when FF is usually played up front). we nearly always play a fairly defensive 4-4-2 with at least one of our wide midfielders tucked in often to compensate from being out numbered in central midfield. This in turn means that we lack width and also pace out wide so we don’t create many chances regardless of who is playing up front. Unless we change tact and probably even personnel our problems up front will persist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Owling said: Fernando's not the answer. Not a fan of his attitude but I would bet my bottom dollar if he had been fit all this season we would be a minimum of 6 points better off and that puts a different perspective on the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Spookone said: Not a fan of his attitude but I would bet my bottom dollar if he had been fit all this season we would be a minimum of 6 points better off and that puts a different perspective on the season. We'll never know will we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Copthorneowl Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 The idea that we havnt and don't continue to miss Nando massively beggars belief. Just who are the creators and prolific scorers that are going to deny him a place in our team? or is it stubbornness by fans alone unwilling to forgive something that happens at every club....wonder why Liverpool fans continue to support Couthino but we can't support FF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Owling said: We'll never know will we. We wont but i'm pretty sure i am right, not just because of his ability, he offers something different and that can change a game. He is also one of the few passionate players we have who can get the crowd worked up and behind the team, which may just encourage the team into putting the type of performances we have seen in the past. Surely its no coincidence, that in general, the times he has been unavailable the style of football has been rather poo and far more negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Spookone said: We wont but i'm pretty sure i am right, not just because of his ability, he offers something different and that can change a game. He is also one of the few passionate players we have who can get the crowd worked up and behind the team, which may just encourage the team into putting the type of performances we have seen in the past. Surely its no coincidence, that in general, the times he has been unavailable the style of football has been rather poo and far more negative. If he was missing for the playoff against Huddersfield you would have said " if Fernando was playing tonight we would have won, cos he wunt have missed that pen". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Owling said: If he was missing for the playoff against Huddersfield you would have said " if Fernando was playing tonight we would have won, cos he wunt have missed that pen". That is also true, I did say in general. Edited November 25, 2017 by Spookone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlofOliveGrove Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I almost feel bad for FF coming back to the immense pressure of everyone thinking he is the one thing that will turn our season. He's a cracking player but he has no say on the garbage style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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