S36 OWL Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Holmowl said: We have been playing like this for 17 months. So why now, when we are gathering decent points? Because it plain to see we have no chance of being promoted under carlos and his negative tactics and style of play. Like us Wolves have spent a lot of money , but are tearing this division a new one with free flowing, attacking ,attractive football because the have a manager/ head coach who knows how to get all his expensive players to blend as a team . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Why? Because everyone else can see what the problems are why can't he? Why do we start games so poorly? Why do we no longer play attacking football? Why is it safety first? Why does he buy players and don't play them? Why does he persist with 4-4-2? Why is he so stubborn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I'm not anti Carlos. Certainly not bitter towards him in any way. I want him to succeed here and be the man to take us back to the PL. I just don't think he's capable. He's taken us as far as he can imo. The lack of any meaningful recruitment in the summer, then the awful Rangers and Preston performances were my turning point on him. It just felt like the beginning of the end. The squad needed some freshness and we had to start well. We've had neither and become so horrendously stale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Carbone said: Because of how well United are doing and that they beat us, is the main reason that people won’t admit Thats a big reason Sure carlos cant do anything about their results And in the bigger picture the derby was only 3 points dropped and a few bruised egos..looked like it was the total end of football for some people who took it personally.. Edited November 23, 2017 by HIGHERSTATE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 27 minutes ago, HIGHERSTATE said: Thats a big reason Sure carlos cant do anything about their results And in the bigger picture the derby was only 3 points dropped and a few bruised egos..looked like it was the total end of football for some people who took it personally.. Uniteds form has nothing to do with it. We're the architects of our own downfall. First it was injuries then it was the referees and now it's united. What next Brexit. Get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 We used to be crap first half, but good second. Now we're just crap 90% of the time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyCraig Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 He's here for the rest of the season. Get used to that fact. Accept that fact. Then stop your tantrums. Then blindly support your club, as you should do. You never know, we just might surprise ourselves. I'm not talking about the habitual moaning minnies. There's no hope for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 i'd like to see the shortlist doyen have to replace him before I start calling for his head ....... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Its because he's stubborn and is clearly ignoring the product on the pitch in favour of results - well draws. Its when the draws leave us so far behind he's got a problem, because then he will have the justify the leauge position as there will be nothing else to praise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Stoop said: I really like CC, he did a cracking job in 15/16, plus he seems like a really genuinely decent bloke. I’m desperate for him to do well, but we are going backwards, and the football barring the odd game has been completely dire for the last 18 months Think that's a fair summation (certainly for me). I miss the bloke from 15/16. I was happy to endure the 16/17 version, as the ends were seemingly going to justify the means. This season though...it is like the worst bits of last season combined with the flakyness (we were a bit flaky away from home in 15/16) of the first season. The last two performances have been utterly woeful. Dreadful going forward (bar brief spells) and then to cap it all off we put in an absolute horror show defensively last night. It's just not good enough, though I have to say the players should also accept their share of the blame. Too few are performing anywhere near the levels sets in the last couple of seasons. A clear out is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Animis said: Its because he's stubborn and is clearly ignoring the product on the pitch in favour of results - well draws. Its when the draws leave us so far behind he's got a problem, because then he will have the justify the leauge position as there will be nothing else to praise. I always thought results are everything for the manager & chairman the manner of them is secondary which is probably the main reason chansiri is still backing him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, torryowl said: I always thought results are everything for the manager & chairman the manner of them is secondary which is probably the main reason chansiri is still backing him sometimes - but when it fails there is nothing left - no BFR moment when everyone knew, even in the face of relegation, there was a plan and vision for a quality style of football, which ultimately lead to success 12 months later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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