jfr142 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Better team. Penalties. We are in a good way. My players etc blah blah blah... What about they where poor again. Played well below.their standard. And refereeing decisions should have been irellevant. We are close to a lost season and the players need to wake up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bark1062 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 hour ago, jfr142 said: Better team. Penalties. We are in a good way. My players etc blah blah blah... What about they where poor again. Played well below.their standard. And refereeing decisions should have been irellevant. We are close to a lost season and the players need to wake up. The man is not for changing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Yesterday's performance was definitely two steps backward IMO. Sleep inducing build up play from the back and not one shot on target. We're a couple of bad results away from facing a season of mediocrity with half the season still to play. Carlos just doesn't seem to be able to take us any further. Would rather hold on to a point than risk going for three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 hour ago, jfr142 said: Better team. Penalties. We are in a good way. My players etc blah blah blah... What about they where poor again. Played well below.their standard. And refereeing decisions should have been irellevant. We are close to a lost season and the players need to wake up. This season was lost months ago. Mid table at best. Westwood who constantly time wastes even when we are 0-0 at home. Thats either his tactics or CC's. We pay good money to watch that. Maybe Westwood needs a wake up call hence the reason he doesn't get the International call up many on here believes he should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 We’ve seen enough of Carlos to know he is not going to change. One of the most worrying quotes from Carlos this season was where he said he was happy with the reaction from the players after the Sheffield derby in our performance at Birmingham... I saw that performance and it was dreadful. We were slow, we had zero tempo, zero urgency and very little creativity, very much like yesterday and many other performances under Carlos. The fact is this is how he likes to play his football and that will not change while ever he’s here, even more depressing however is our chairman seems to enjoy watching this dross and is happy to keep Carlos in a job, inflicting a very long and boring season upon us which will no doubt end in failure. The only possible thing I can imagine that will change things is if the fans either refuse to pay the very high matchday prices to watch this rubbish or the fans that are leave the chairman in no doubt how they feel about the direction of the team on the pitch. It really is just s^it to watch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Muffinman said: We are hard to beat in a tough league and staying in touch, with our best player's return approaching. Everybody is impatient. The league has moved on and this season every game is tough. Fans have unrealistic expectations. If we remain hard to beat and competitive our chances will come. I would prefer to be strong at the end where it counts and that will only be determined if fans stick with the team and give CC and the team a chance. We will know at the end of the season what kind of season we have had. He isn't going so get behind him. You mean strong in the end like in Carlos’ previous two seasons? And from memory I believe most teams who get promoted from this league are positioned around the top 2 for most of the season, not sitting in midtable and 12 points off automatic promotion in November. I think the above is why a lot of fans don’t have the belief that we will get promoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Muffinman said: We are hard to beat in a tough league and staying in touch, with our best player's return approaching. Everybody is impatient. The league has moved on and this season every game is tough. Fans have unrealistic expectations. If we remain hard to beat and competitive our chances will come. I would prefer to be strong at the end where it counts and that will only be determined if fans stick with the team and give CC and the team a chance. We will know at the end of the season what kind of season we have had. He isn't going so get behind him. Sorry but I disagree. Ok we are missing FF but we have enough firepower in Fletch, Rhodes, Hoops and Joue to compensate. Add some of the best midfielders in the division and we should frighten any team. I think this is a poor division this year. Apart from Wolves look who's at the top - a team promoted last season - and what's more they deserve to be there. Bristol were poor yesterday - infact they were two poor teams combining to make an aweful game. We had a good chance last season and blew it with poor tactics against Udders. We are going to miss a golden opportunity again this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfr142 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 22 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said: We’ve seen enough of Carlos to know he is not going to change. One of the most worrying quotes from Carlos this season was where he said he was happy with the reaction from the players after the Sheffield derby in our performance at Birmingham... I saw that performance and it was dreadful. We were slow, we had zero tempo, zero urgency and very little creativity, very much like yesterday and many other performances under Carlos. The fact is this is how he likes to play his football and that will not change while ever he’s here, even more depressing however is our chairman seems to enjoy watching this dross and is happy to keep Carlos in a job, inflicting a very long and boring season upon us which will no doubt end in failure. The only possible thing I can imagine that will change things is if the fans either refuse to pay the very high matchday prices to watch this rubbish or the fans that are leave the chairman in no doubt how they feel about the direction of the team on the pitch. It really is just s^it to watch. Great words but I think it goes deeper than just Carlos. And I think it suits the chairman for fans to focus on the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Concrete Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 22 minutes ago, Muffinman said: We are hard to beat in a tough league and staying in touch, with our best player's return approaching. Everybody is impatient. The league has moved on and this season every game is tough. Fans have unrealistic expectations. If we remain hard to beat and competitive our chances will come. I would prefer to be strong at the end where it counts and that will only be determined if fans stick with the team and give CC and the team a chance. We will know at the end of the season what kind of season we have had. He isn't going so get behind him. Deluded beyond so many levels. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz62uk Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I love how you think Carlos gives a flying f00k what the fans thinks and even more he ever looks on here. Its up to the fans to make change now!. Call the pigs as much as you want but their fans would not put up with this not matter what it takes they would have had him out by now. I started voting with my feet about 6-8 weeks ago and not going back until he's gone, they have got my money this season for a ST but no matter who's in next year i will not be getting one. I would not mind but i sit on south stand . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, jfr142 said: Great words but I think it goes deeper than just Carlos. And I think it suits the chairman for fans to focus on the manager. I don't think you can blame Mr C. He has invested millions in the club, he's given the coach the backing most managers crave for. The only criticism I have of Mr C is that he needs to get some competent advisers in to make sure HIS money is being used to best advantage, (likewise the off field side of the club). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 All he's done for the last 2 months is moan about referees, yet say he's happy with performances. There is no game plan, no fight, no creativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No 2 is r nilsson Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 hours ago, jfr142 said: Great words but I think it goes deeper than just Carlos. And I think it suits the chairman for fans to focus on the manager. I think rather than worry about us, where do you think all the pigs are going to hide when the wheels come off? Do you think it might be where the scum hid last year? Or maybe where the pigs hid last time, or the time before that? Thought it might be something you could shed some light on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1982 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 57 minutes ago, No 2 is r nilsson said: I think rather than worry about us, where do you think all the pigs are going to hide when the wheels come off? Do you think it might be where the scum hid last year? Or maybe where the pigs hid last time, or the time before that? Thought it might be something you could shed some light on. Couldn’t care less about them, but it seems like you might more than you profess - for the record, their wheels aren’t coming off for 1 major reason - their manager. They are the polar opposite of us right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Muffinman said: We are hard to beat in a tough league and staying in touch, with our best player's return approaching. Everybody is impatient. The league has moved on and this season every game is tough. Fans have unrealistic expectations. If we remain hard to beat and competitive our chances will come. I would prefer to be strong at the end where it counts and that will only be determined if fans stick with the team and give CC and the team a chance. We will know at the end of the season what kind of season we have had. He isn't going so get behind him. Wake up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xxxxxxxxcxcc Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 4 hours ago, Muffinman said: We are hard to beat in a tough league and staying in touch, ......................................... Hard to beat and equally hard to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Carlos is Carlos he won't change. No matter what the 20+ thousand and local journos can clearly see whats wrong. Carlos will stick his guns. Carlos will be his own downfall it will be his fault, in the meantime we just plod on with our multi million pound midtable team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Fessi Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, jfr142 said: Better team. Penalties. We are in a good way. My players etc blah blah blah... What about they where poor again. Played well below.their standard. And refereeing decisions should have been irellevant. We are close to a lost season and the players need to wake up. What was wrong with the approach yesterday? We played the same team/style that had won 2 in a row, against a top 4 side who had clearly come and set up to frustrate us & go away with a draw. Sometimes you just need to accept CC did the right thing but we just had an off day, certain players didn't have good games plus it was vs a good side, the performances in recent games have been good and we're on a steady run, positive things are happening. 4 hours ago, Johnny Concrete said: Deluded beyond so many levels. Can you explain this comment because i think it makes no sense. Edited November 19, 2017 by Lionel Fessi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tollertonowl Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 5 hours ago, CLswfc said: This season was lost months ago. Mid table at best. Westwood who constantly time wastes even when we are 0-0 at home. Thats either his tactics or CC's. We pay good money to watch that. Maybe Westwood needs a wake up call hence the reason he doesn't get the International call up many on here believes he should. Needs to learn how to kick the ball to a blue and white shirt aswell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No 2 is r nilsson Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 hour ago, mark1982 said: Couldn’t care less about them, but it seems like you might more than you profess - for the record, their wheels aren’t coming off for 1 major reason - their manager. They are the polar opposite of us right now They always do mate - just wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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