steveger 25,094 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: Only if they build the new stadium in Belfast Mexborough Link to post Share on other sites
S1Owl 1,075 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 31 minutes ago, Whitechapel Owl said: What if it wasn't a horrible bowl and not on an industrial estate? I don't see the point in redeveloping when 3 of the stands need pulling down. Those World Cup developments might have looked nice from the pictures but how much would it cost and what would the improvements to the actual facilities around the entire ground? From what I remember the fancy bits were to be placed in the new West stand. I recall it affecting all parts of the ground but yeah especially west stand but still no. The heritage and tradition is dying in football so for that reason n'all. Link to post Share on other sites
nevthelodgemoorowl 12,382 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 A bowl, but a rectangular squared off Bowl. The Kretovsky Stadium Leningrad (St Petersburg). It would fit nicely in Hillsborough Park. It was completed more than 500% late of completion and more than 500% over budget . Too replicate the project savings on time and cost should be achievable. Not a fan but note the safe standing areas capacity 67k. Link to post Share on other sites
Socialist_Owl 2,712 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 9 hours ago, Lambretta said: No stay where we are and redevelop as above Tradition and heritage are far more important than these sterile plastic stadiums. And for what? Midtable PL mediocrity, if we're lucky? That's what the end game is? The PL is not the end all most would have you believe . Link to post Share on other sites
Socialist_Owl 2,712 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 49 minutes ago, steveger said: Yes as the attraction of the Hillsborough location as a 7 day a week source of non match day income is embarrassing at best, needs to be out near Meadowhell somewhere to cash in as a profitable business, but i don't go to games so my opinions is worth F**k All, no doubt. To be a success if we get promoted then the club needs to move forward and modernise, not all new grounds are flatpack souless bowls, wouldn't make no difference with us anyway as our home atmospheres limp at times, the band hides it sometimes thank god... The ONLY stand we have fit for modern day football is the South Stand and it's narrow concourses are not ideal, the rest are outdated, the West and the Kops a mess, tradition and History will only carry us so far sadly an most people need to wake up to this... it's gunna happen eventually whether you like it or not... Most are soulless bowls because it's more cost effective that way. Link to post Share on other sites
nevthelodgemoorowl 12,382 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Hillsborough is and has been for 80 years or more a far better commercial proposition than Tinsley. People need to learn to think out of the box a little and dream just what Hillsborough could be like. Link to post Share on other sites
Inspector Lestrade 21,802 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Needs to be built with proper bricks and love. Link to post Share on other sites
Spookone 2,870 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Yes, She's way past her best isn't she and a new fur coat isn't going to solve the problems. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Xxxxxxxxcxcc Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Soulless Bowls. Link to post Share on other sites
S36 OWL 51,873 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Whitechapel Owl said: What if it wasn't a horrible bowl and not on an industrial estate? I don't see the point in redeveloping when 3 of the stands need pulling down. Those World Cup developments might have looked nice from the pictures but how much would it cost and what would the improvements to the actual facilities around the entire ground? From what I remember the fancy bits were to be placed in the new West stand. But thats what they all are. They are built out of town on old industrial land close to major roads and motorways . No thanks Link to post Share on other sites
OWLERTON GHOST 29,773 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, upperwinngardensowl said: Never! How about we rebuild the ground at winn gardens incorporating training ground and park area and build a replica (with improvements) stadium there . Then build a replica winn gardens at the site of current stadia .. Bring DiY Sos team to do it .. Quite a good name for a football ground Win Gardens Edited November 16, 2017 by OWLERTON GHOST 1 Link to post Share on other sites
daveyboy66 10,846 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Can't believe Neil has regurgitated this load of oldfanny again...until we have 35,000 season ticket holders and in the Prem we won't be looking to move FFS Link to post Share on other sites
trueblue1987 148 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 21 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said: The very soul of the club is more important than playing futile keepy uppy with absolutely minted owners. The soul is already pretty much gone for me; new kit without stripes, new badge, families being priced out of watching and apathy growing the the fan base. Link to post Share on other sites
Lees Tom Cat 5,098 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 They should look at moving to somewhere around Milton Keynes so we could offer a proper rival to mk dons. Pointless staying in south Yorkshire need to move it nearer to London and get hs2 route to it. Link to post Share on other sites
markowl 14,176 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, trueblue1987 said: The soul is already pretty much gone for me; new kit without stripes, new badge, families being priced out of watching and apathy growing the the fan base. Jesus where were you 10 years ago if you think there's apathy now? Link to post Share on other sites
legendaryswan 2,583 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 No,the designs for the WC showed that we have what we need and more for a club of our stature. We already have our home no need to move Link to post Share on other sites
trueblue1987 148 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, markowl said: Jesus where were you 10 years ago if you think there's apathy now? I was in the stadium with my mates and family, some of whom can't afford to go now or have lost interest. Maybe that's where it all began. But, having spoken to many of the swfc fans I know, more of them are saying they're fed up with swfc and football now than ever did before. I used to love going to Hillsborough, I'm far less excited now. Link to post Share on other sites
markowl 14,176 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, trueblue1987 said: I was in the stadium with my mates and family, some of whom can't afford to go now or have lost interest. Maybe that's where it all began. But, having spoken to many of the swfc fans I know, more of them are saying they're fed up with swfc and football now than ever did before. I used to love going to Hillsborough, I'm far less excited now. I know what you mean. Those back to back play off appearances are shít aren't they? Oh for the days when we were playing hartlepool and Yeovil. Link to post Share on other sites
trueblue1987 148 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, markowl said: I know what you mean. Those back to back play off appearances are shít aren't they? Oh for the days when we were playing hartlepool and Yeovil. Hartlepool was a fantastic day. I was buzzing when I left Cardiff. Link to post Share on other sites
Flat Owl 5,921 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 No need to move. implement the World Cup plans and acquire property surrounding the stadium if and when possible. More often than not, the reason for moving to new stadia is to increase capacity...our ground would be fit for purpose with a new west stand and the corners filled in for many years to come. many clubs had to relocate to build New stadia to improve Their truly dilapidated grounds...which we also had before the 66 World Cup. Grounds like Filbert Street, vetchfield, Baseball Ground, Ayresome Park, Roker Park, Boothferry Park, Burnden Park & The Dell were still essentially unchanged from the 1920's.. We just need to alter and extend certain parts of the ground and facilities within, not build an entirely new one and pay for the land to do so. IMO it would just add to the way that football clubs are becoming detached from ordinary folk by becoming a park and ride venue In an industrial estate off a roundabout off the M1...or worse still some kind of Ricoh Arena... Link to post Share on other sites
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