fife_owl Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) It's a bit depressing on here - so I thought I'd start an old fashioned thread about the team. I think the last few games have blown the idea that Fletcher and Hooper work as a partnership. Good friends - yes; potent strike force - no. Fletcher has never been prolific as a goal scorer so must earn his place laying on goals for others and there hasn't been enough of those. Rhodes has been prolific at this level, he's also worked on his game as contributor. For me, he should get a run in the side starting on Tuesday and let's see how he does. Edited October 29, 2017 by fife_owl Grammer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarvy Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I reckon Joao instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Bach Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Rhodes was awful yesterday. As he has been over the last few times he has been asked to make an impact. Agree, I'd start Joao with Hooper and give Fletch a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) It needs freshening up. Fletcher has had opportunities in recent games and hasnt taken them. Rhodes or Joao deserve an opportunity to start. I would like to see Butterfield start for a change as Bannan and Lee in the middle isnt and doesnt work. Edited October 29, 2017 by Ronnie Starling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Nuhiu and Rhodes for me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Bach Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Ronnie Starling said: It needs freshening up. Fletcher has had opportunities in recent games and hasnt taken them. Rhodes or Joao deserve an opportunity to start. I would like to see Butterfield start for a change as Bannan and Lee in the middle isnt and doesnt work. Fletcher was fantastic in the first half yesterday but had clearly run out of steam. Despite everything, the two up front are the best pairing we have had in a while - nothing bad at all to say about Hooper and Fletcher. They are our engine room at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlmanc Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 That would involve a manager who is able to think up new ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 What has Rhodes done to warrant a start? When he comes on he looks like he's never played before. I know he's had a good scoring record in the championship but he's been absolutely awful for us. He's had chances and he's missed chance after chance but I'm more worried about his all round game which is very poor. For the sake of the poor lad and for his career, it is better we move him on in January. I'd give Joao a game as we are lacking pace in our team and it will give the opposition something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobbinTheDonkey Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Hooper and Fletcher does work but only if the midfield has the balls to step 10 yards away from the centre halves and tries to support them but as usual it's keeping it tight that matter most. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Bach Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Rhodes never wanted to come, we dodn't need him and his record 18 months prior to his arrival was suspect. He enever really recovered from being only a tourist to Middlesborough's return to the Premier League. The worst move he could have made was a high pressure, high transfer fee aquisition to a club battling for promotion. He needs to strategically choose a club who will help re-build his career because he his helping neither himself or SWFC with his absent-minded and sluggish performances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Arthur Bach said: Rhodes never wanted to come, Why did he come then? 3 minutes ago, Arthur Bach said: we dodn't need him I agree there. Odd signing given the other areas that needed addressing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fife_owl Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) Joao is a good call. On form alone, he should be ahead of Rhodes and has pace too. But Rhodes is that player that scored more than fifty goals in two seasons at this level. Surely you've got to try and get that player back. Edited October 29, 2017 by fife_owl Grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlkestonOwl Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 If we're even Contemplating nuhui I think it's definitely time to throw in the towel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S63 Owl Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 It’s fine people saying Rhodes has failed to shine so far but he’s hardly had a decent run of games - especially this season. How can he get up to speed when he’s only getting 15mins here or there in games that we are chasing and everything is hoofed up to him. Give him a run of 4:5 games with Hooper, put decent balls on a plate for him and we’ll begin to see his potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Bach Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Just now, Lord Snooty said: Why did he come then? It was a perfect storm of fuckwittery in my opinion. The fans wanted him, DC wanted to wave his wanger at the fee paid out and Rhodes was determined to leave behind his 'Boro nightmare. All three reasons by all three parties were motivated all wrong. The fans ended up with something they already had, DC is down millions (twice what JR is prob worth) and Rhodes is now a year further behind on his career. We had Winnall for a few hundred thousand which was PERFECT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, Arthur Bach said: Rhodes never wanted to come, we dodn't need him and his record 18 months prior to his arrival was suspect. He enever really recovered from being only a tourist to Middlesborough's return to the Premier League. The worst move he could have made was a high pressure, high transfer fee aquisition to a club battling for promotion. He needs to strategically choose a club who will help re-build his career because he his helping neither himself or SWFC with his absent-minded and sluggish performances. I agree with all that apart from the first line - he definitely wanted to come and when interviewed he was absolutely over the moon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Bach Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, S61 Owl said: It’s fine people saying Rhodes has failed to shine so far but he’s hardly had a decent run of games - especially this season. How can he get up to speed when he’s only getting 15mins here or there in games that we are chasing and everything is hoofed up to him. Give him a run of 4:5 games with Hooper, put decent balls on a plate for him and we’ll begin to see his potential I think any player deserves a chance and I do like and respect JR as a player. But when he arrived he knew that FF, Winnall, Hooper and Fletcher were already here. Like I said in my other post, I think if he had slept on it he would have realised it was the wrong move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlkestonOwl Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Rhodes will score but not with the style of play we have continued to pursue. Give him to someone like derby or Fulham with dare I say it PACE on the wings with ABILITY to cross.its not Rhodes it's the idiot managing him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) I never thought we should go for Rhodes. The wrong fit. However now we have him it's up to us to use him In the right way or to move him on. One thing he will never be is an impact substitute. If he's going to be involved in the match day squad at all then it should be as a starter. Otherwise it's a waste of everyone's time. Edited October 29, 2017 by Lord Snooty Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Just now, IlkestonOwl said: Rhodes will score but not with the style of play we have continued to pursue. Give him to someone like derby or Fulham with dare I say it PACE on the wings with ABILITY to cross.its not Rhodes it's the idiot managing him Agree with you there I think Rhodes needs to play for a manager who shows him “love” and support. And who plays a system that creates chances for him to score from I bet if he went to Burnley (even when they were still in the championship), he would have been a much better player than we are seeing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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