scilly owl Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 It's because he eats sh*t loads of Tuna, and so does his family in Portugal... that's how they met. Apparently Carlos wrote in asking for special bulk discount rates and they struck up a relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Just now, Avon barksdale said: Surely it should only come down the results and Performance on the pitch, and they aren’t good enough. Have doyen no other managers has clients? An out of work manager would not demand a raft of new signings if told to work with what he’s got. The same reason could be said of backroom staff. Work with what you’ve got till end of season. I tend to agree with rumbelows the man just hasn’t got a clue. Up to the Derby game we had lost as many matches as the piggy blunts. Now we have only lost one more game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avon barksdale Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, pgmetcalf said: Up to the Derby game we had lost as many matches as the piggy blunts. Now we have only lost one more game I don’t care about United , I support and love Wednesday. Edited October 29, 2017 by Avon barksdale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Copthorneowl Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Last year the club apparently expanded the coaching regime with more personnel from Portugal and sacked the medical/physiotherapiy team replacing them all with Carlos's fellow countrymen. The club seems now to be heavily tied in to these guys now and I suppose telling Carlos the project is over is one thing sacking the whole back room staff is another added to which is the Doyen link which after reading what others have said seems to be one big 'tie in' or contractual mess good luck DC think you're in deep mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, pgmetcalf said: Up to the Derby game we had lost as many matches as the piggy blunts. Now we have only lost one more game Problem is those tw@ts have so far won 6 more games than us this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 12 minutes ago, wilyfox said: Maybe DC is as stubborn as Carlos - or even more so. I suspect it's financial. This is the second season of the three-year FFP aggregate thing, and it sounds as though we've already spunked most of it. A new manager would wanna rip the squad up and do things his way. We're probably not in a position to do that now. DC has invested too much in Carlos' philosophy. We're snookered. The time to start the shake up is right now. New manager in time to assess squad before next transfer window. Sell the likes of Rhodes Abdi Nuhiu Matias and any other of the underperformers. Use the funds to bring in young, hungry hard running players who can last 90 minutes twice a week. It can be done. You don't have to look too far from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) Mr C can't be happy. He's spent millions and the wheel's come off big style. He needs to get someone in to do the day to day running of the club, and either a d of f to get the footballing side sorted out and a new coach, or, a good old fashioned manager to sort the lot out. I feel sorry for him. He's been, and is being, badly advised. He must be able to see it Edited October 29, 2017 by doubleo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Pep hasn't quite decided which way to jump yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robowl84 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Avon barksdale said: Genuine question , interested to know fellow supporters thoughts on why Chansiri hasn’t sacked Carlos. I don’t think we’ve got the money to sack him & all his Portuguese backroom staff. Think he’ll see the season out regardless of results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 50 minutes ago, RUMBELOWS91 said: Because he hasn't got a clue about football- and that's not being flippant. He simply hasn't. This 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Copthorneowl Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 19 minutes ago, Avon barksdale said: Surely it should only come down the results and Performance on the pitch, and they aren’t good enough. Have doyen no other managers has clients? An out of work manager would not demand a raft of new signings if told to work with what he’s got. The same reason could be said of backroom staff. Work with what you’ve got till end of season. I tend to agree with rumbelows the man just hasn’t got a clue. Mate, big business which is what this comes down to is always about money. The owner has spent tens of millions on a project that's if not completely shot is quickly heading that way. DC Has now got to invest more money in expertise all over the project (not just on Carlos) to protect/recover/solidify his investment. He certainly in my view needs experienced heads to run the club make decisions and get a grip on the player recruitment which is abysmal. No fan/supporter can have any idea what contracts are signed or in place with coaches, Doyen or anybody else hence we can only guess at what can actually be done rather than what needed to be done. Getting rid of the manager I suspect is the least of his problems notwithstanding as you say results are key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Quist Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 No one really knows the answer we can all guess. It is clear CC has got himself in total control of football side of club and has engineered removal of all who may have a gripe with him including physiotherapists. the medical staff obviously got the blame for last season. DC has put all of his faith in CC.. DC closest football lieutant is a Doyen Sports man and so is CC he is hardly going to advise against removing somebody who is an earner for them. It will be getting tricky though and Doyen will soon have to pull plug on CC has his promise of promotion this season looks nigh on impossible. Do not think it would happen this weekend with a match on Tuesday but if there is an awful result on Tuesday he will be teetering on brink. Sincerely hope we look for a British manager who knows league as many of the foreigners brought in are second rate and get huge budgets to work with. Preferably somebody like Cook, Hurst, or Heckingbottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 54 minutes ago, DesWalker said: DC has never been in this position before. A very honourable and principled man, he simply doesn’t know what to do. He’s tied his hands behind his back as it seems CC and his staff/advisors are deeply rooted in the club. We need a DOF with experience to help get us out of the sh|t and a new coach/manager. Id day write this season off and start again, but it is ridiculous that we are only 5 points off playoffs. DC needs to act now before it’s too late. Honourable and principled? I'll wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 18 minutes ago, Blatter said: The time to start the shake up is right now. New manager in time to assess squad before next transfer window. Sell the likes of Rhodes Abdi Nuhiu Matias and any other of the underperformers. Use the funds to bring in young, hungry hard running players who can last 90 minutes twice a week. It can be done. You don't have to look too far from home. Selling Rhodes would be for a loss. Abdi would be impossible to sell if he can't stay fit. Nuhiu will be into last 6 months of his contract, so pretty worthless. Matias has done sod all for 2yrs, so would also be for a loss. Some should have been sold before now when it was still possible. DC's stance not to sell anybody has shot himself in the foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Because he knows we massively overachieved last season and the season before, and despite apparently spending loads of money, were aren't actually that good. The weaknesses in the squad that everybody could see after the Hull defeat are still there, they haven't been addressed, and everybody deserves blame for it. But, I think most of the blame should go to Mr Chansiri and Doyen Sports who dictate our transfer policy. 8m wasted on a striker we didn't need, countless other signings who barely get on the bench. No money to spend in January - nothing will change with a new manager, I don't think any manager that fans want will touch us at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 58 minutes ago, DesWalker said: DC has never been in this position before. A very honourable and principled man, he simply doesn’t know what to do. Seriously - what evidence do we have whatsoever that DC is a 'very honourable and principled man'? Is it just because he's Asian? Like a reverse racist kind of a situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTwelves Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 1. Because Carlos is a good manager 2. Because players have been recruited to fit the style of play that CC wants to use 3. Because possession based, low risk football is the style of choice for most big teams at the moment 4. Because continuity is generally regarded as a strength in managing for the long term 5. Because DC has the cultural strength not to panic because of short term results and to stick with his conviction 6. Because we are not going to get relegated so there is limited downside to sticking with the plan 7. Because sacking CC and his staff would need a big, emergency recruitment campaign in which the main candidates would be those currently out of work 8. Because we have been here before for the last couple of seasons having runs of poor results only to have that turned around by runs of good results. CC has shown that he can turn it around. It's easy to let disappointment turn into panic and knee-jerk responses. Let's be happy we don't have a chairman whose immediate reaction is always to fire the manager. Frankly, football as a whole would be better off with more chairmen like DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, wilyfox said: Selling Rhodes would be for a loss. Abdi would be impossible to sell if he can't stay fit. Nuhiu will be into last 6 months of his contract, so pretty worthless. Matias has done sod all for 2yrs, so would also be for a loss. Some should have been sold before now when it was still possible. DC's stance not to sell anybody has shot himself in the foot. This is a big problem with our transfer policy, a lot of deadwood but we are paying them too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, MrTwelves said: 1. Because Carlos is a good manager 2. Because players have been recruited to fit the style of play that CC wants to use 3. Because possession based, low risk football is the style of choice for most big teams at the moment 4. Because continuity is generally regarded as a strength in managing for the long term 5. Because DC has the cultural strength not to panic because of short term results and to stick with his conviction 6. Because we are not going to get relegated so there is limited downside to sticking with the plan 7. Because sacking CC and his staff would need a big, emergency recruitment campaign in which the main candidates would be those currently out of work 8. Because we have been here before for the last couple of seasons having runs of poor results only to have that turned around by runs of good results. CC has shown that he can turn it around. It's easy to let disappointment turn into panic and knee-jerk responses. Let's be happy we don't have a chairman whose immediate reaction is always to fire the manager. Frankly, football as a whole would be better off with more chairmen like DC. Having advisors who don't have massive conflicts of interests when it comes to signing players would help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_D Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 might as well start clapping cos he ain't goin' anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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