@owlstalk Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 The Sheffield Wednesday manager Carlos Carvalhal today explained the situation around George Hirst not featuring in the first team, explaining it's a contractual matter that's stopping anything happening, and that is out of Carlos' remit and control"I dunno about this situation It's out of my orbit with contracts. I'm not inside this situation" When asked if it was frustrating that such a talent existed at the club that he wasn't able to access due the contractual side of the club Carlos explained "It's not frustrating because it's not a player that's involved with us. I'm not a person to do contracts and it's completely out of my orbit and out of my hands""He's not working with us. I can't talk too much about it as I'm not involved in any of the contract stuff" Carlos went onto explain "It's modern football. This is a situation of that. Sometimes modern is a disaster" Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Is Carlos involved with the contract with George Hirst by any chance? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Almat Posted October 26, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Is Carlos involved with the contract with George Hirst by any chance? No, it's out of his orbit. You need to speak to Uranus for an answer... Edited October 26, 2017 by Almat 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAP22D Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 The lad clearly believe's his own hype and is being told he's a lot better than he actually is. Get what we can at tribunal and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronowl66 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 The title of this thread and the content of what was actually said is another brilliant piece of baiting Neil , hats off to you sir bloody good effort . In three pages I guarantee Carlos is distraught at not being able to put Hirst in the first eleven 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almat Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 minute ago, LiamAP22D said: The lad clearly believe's his own hype and is being told he's a lot better than he actually is. Get what we can at tribunal and move on. As a father myself I would be keen to secure my son's financial future if an opportunity presents itself. The rest is up to George with regards how his career progresses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 So if he wanted to could he pick George Hirst for the first team subs bench on Saturday, or is that out of his orbit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAP22D Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Almat said: As a father myself I would be keen to secure my son's financial future if an opportunity presents itself. The rest is up to George with regards how his career progresses... You have to be realistic though, they have offered to make him the highest paid player ever at the club for his age. The only person suffering at the moment is young George because he aint playing. And as far as the first team's concerned, you don't miss what you've never had. Edited October 26, 2017 by LiamAP22D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 minute ago, alanharper said: So if he wanted to could he pick George Hirst for the first team subs bench on Saturday, or is that out of his orbit? He may have been told he can't by the planet Chansiri until contract dispute is sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch's biscuit knee Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 This confirms #cluelesscarlos is on a totally different planet to the rest of us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almat Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, LiamAP22D said: You have to be realistic though, they have offered to make him the highest paid player ever at the club for his age. The only person suffering at the moment is young George because he aint playing. I get you but he's mixing/excelling with kids his age in the England set up that are probably earning many multiples of what even the offer we have made is. Hard not to have your head turned in this situation. Edited October 26, 2017 by Almat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAP22D Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Almat said: I get you but he's mixing/excelling with kids his age in the England set up that are probably earning many multiples of what even the offer we have made is. Hard not to have your head turned in this situation. He is doing really well, I agree! Although I do believe his England appearances have been for the B team? (happy to be corrected if i'm wrong) Personally, I think he'll end up like a Devante Cole playing for someone like Fleetwood Town. He should be working hard to improve...not getting into contract spats at 17 or whatever he is. There's plenty of time for that once he's made abit of a name for himself. But then again whilst our youngsters are seeing players like FF idolized despite the way he behaves, there really should be no surprise the young lads doing what he's being told to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Is it true the Hirst is contracted by Doyen?..if so, are they not "Working on our behalf to get players"?...If true...What actually is the point of the the relationship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: Is it true the Hirst is contracted by Doyen?..if so, are they not "Working on our behalf to get players"?...If true...What actually is the point of the the relationship? It's so confusing If what a few people have posted is to be believed we have Doyen negotiating with Doyen on this one? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almat Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: Is it true the Hirst is contracted by Doyen?..if so, are they not "Working on our behalf to get players"?...If true...What actually is the point of the the relationship? 1. Yes 2. Who knows? Maybe they are DC's 'friends'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: It's so confusing If what a few people have posted is to be believed we have Doyen negotiating with Doyen on this one? Doyen, Doyen, Gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: It's so confusing If what a few people have posted is to be believed we have Doyen negotiating with Doyen on this one? Therein lies the problem Neil...Wonder how those negotiations pan out... "I demand 4 Million £'s" "No...I insist i give you 6Million £'s" "Did you say 8 Million £'s?" "Yes" "10 it is then......................... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kelliesleftnut Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, LiamAP22D said: He is doing really well, I agree! Although I do believe his England appearances have been for the B team? (happy to be corrected if i'm wrong) Personally, I think he'll end up like a Devante Cole playing for someone like Fleetwood Town. He should be working hard to improve...not getting into contract spats at 17 or whatever he is. There's plenty of time for that once he's made abit of a name for himself. But then again whilst our youngsters are seeing players like FF idolized despite the way he behaves, there really should be no surprise the young lads doing what he's being told to do. He has a total of 24 England caps for the under 17/18/19/20's scoring 15 goals, so I'm guessing you know little about him. So curious to know what makes you think he will end up like Devante Cole ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 There is a smell of Teves style third party ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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