SallyCinnamon Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 He just does doesn't he. If he doesn't Chansiri is blowing our chances of a play off push this season. And how harsh this may sound if he doesn't leave after a defeat tomorrow, neither of them have the best interests of the club at heart in my opinion. A strong opinion yes but that's what I believe. I don't want to doubt their commitment to the club but I struggle to see how their hearts can be fully in it if we don't make changes after another loss. How can anyone turn around and say he can get us into the Play Offs (which should have been the bare minimum by the way) after 4 defeats in 5? Still October yes but for me already tomorrow is MUST win for Carlos and the club. If not he has to be sacked or walk for the benefit of the club. Regardless of whether we want Carlos to stay or go, we must all get behind the team for 3 points tomorrow. It's a big one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I agree. But even if we lose tomorrow he won't be leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Cosby Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I'm not just sat on the fence with Carlos, it's been permanently rammed up my ar*e because I've never called for a manager to be sacked, so I'm not about to start now. However, if we were to lose tomorrow I think the die hard "Carlos Inners" would find it very difficult to construct much of an argument to keep him on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-owls Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 As above, I don't think it matters one bit. Carlos is going nowhere and we're going to have to make the best of a bad job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC1867 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 12 minutes ago, alanharper said: I agree. But even if we lose tomorrow he won't be leaving. Sadly this. Coming to the realisation that DC has not got the advice and infrastructure around him to competently seek to replace him anyway. To say nothing of the commercial disaster of the kit release. I don't know of a decent manager who would work under such a bobbar structure as appears to be in place. There is a reason Carlos is still liked by the Besiktas chairman: he's a yes man. Another more competent manager would not be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 The new kit prices just announced could be a straw and camels back for many I can see things getting very angry if we go a goal down One thing Mr Chansiri hasn't seen or experienced yet is the wrath of the fans when things are gone too far in terms of bad results or ripping fans off Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightace Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 We'll probably win but then lose the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Depends how the match goes. If its an unlucky 1-0 defeat to a dodgy pen then I don't think anyone will have changed there minds on weather he goes or stays. Our record v Derby is really poor and we are on a bad run of form. Both of these have to end sometime so predicting 2-1 win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) I agree, unfortunately if we do lose tomorrow I think it's time CC left. However I doubt DC will sack him, as I've said before he has had opportunity to do this before and hasn't. Massive game tomorrow, would love you 3 points but play like we did against Bolton and they will hammer us. Can imagine there will be a lot of booing from the stands if we do lose. Edited October 20, 2017 by WalthamOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handball_!! Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 It's the Doyen effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: The new kit prices just announced could be a straw and camels back for many I can see things getting very angry if we go a goal down One thing Mr Chansiri hasn't seen or experienced yet is the wrath of the fans when things are gone too far in terms of bad results or ripping fans off This. Just reading through twitter the response to the kit prices is venomous. It's imperative results start picking up and if Carlos can't do that Chansiri needs to take action. I can see it all getting very sour if we keep plodding on like this. A win tomorrow is so so important for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronseal Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, alanharper said: I agree. But even if we lose tomorrow he won't be leaving. Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 There's a growing bad feeling around this club The new shirt price and all the off field stuff just piles more and more pressure on Carlos It all chips away at fans patience Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I don't think the Derby game will decide his fate, the sequence of three Derby/Barnsley/Millwall could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Been asked loads of times but if he goes who replaces him??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robowl4life Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, coopswfc76 said: Been asked loads of times but if he goes who replaces him??? Had you heard of CC before he arrived? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronseal Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 20 minutes ago, coopswfc76 said: Been asked loads of times but if he goes who replaces him??? Whichever 'head coach' doyen sports have on their books who fancys a new job in england Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) Has to go irrespective of the result, losing hope that this will happen however and prepared for a mid table season of dour, ponderous performances with the odd bright spark, i.e. Leeds and more testicles about fish, other vegetables and flagrant abuse of £20 notes. At least he won't be here next season will he? Edited October 20, 2017 by striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, robowl4life said: Had you heard of CC before he arrived? So Carlos gets castigated for being an unknown quantity but you'd take another unknown? CARLOS IN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzlebeak Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Morning Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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