F. Spiksley Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Meh... players need to talk with their football now, owe it to us and to their manager. http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-owls-owe-fans-a-big-performance-against-derby-county-admits-defender-1-8811661 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanye West Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Without doubt the players are massively underperforming, they’re the ones that’ll end up getting Carlos sacked. Everyone wants him to succeed here, but unfortunately the manager is the one that gets the boot when teams don’t play well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Dukeries Owl Posted October 19, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, zico.b said: Talk is cheap. It used to cost a fortune on Clubcall. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I like Jack Hunt. Seems an honest and decent lad. I reckon Loovens and Pudil would help sort things out a bit at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuthaMucker Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 18 minutes ago, Kanye West said: Without doubt the players are massively underperforming, they’re the ones that’ll end up getting Carlos sacked. Everyone wants him to succeed here, but unfortunately the manager is the one that gets the boot when teams don’t play well. Are you saying the players are at fault for Carlos’ negative tactics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 17 minutes ago, zico.b said: Talk is cheap. Talk is definitely cheap on Owlstalk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Shame bobbar different player!!! Same thing after every loss....pure and utter bullshit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanye West Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, FuthaMucker said: Are you saying the players are at fault for Carlos’ negative tactics? Or maybe they aren’t playing to the level he wants them to play. Negative tactics or not, watching both the Birmingham and Bolton games, the effort and desire looks missing from most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 We've heard it all before. Now either its the head coach's tactics or the application of the players. Either way it isn't good enough. 10 minutes ago, Kopparberg said: I like Jack Hunt. Seems an honest and decent lad. I reckon Loovens and Pudil would help sort things out a bit at the back. If Loovens is deemed to be the answer then again our recruitment has been shown up to be wee wee poor. We needed to improve on Loovens long ago and we will see the team revert back to two static centre halfs unable to play out from the back with our play will slowing down even further. The new centre half should have been brought in in July 2016 not 2017 but our head coach's arrogant I know better couple with no need for a physical midfielder has seen us go backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuthaMucker Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Kanye West said: Or maybe they aren’t playing to the level he wants them to play. Negative tactics or not, watching both the Birmingham and Bolton games, the effort and desire looks missing from most. While I agree that there hasn’t been enough effort on the most part this season and you can add the Blades match to that too. But for me it’s not coincidence that when we do play with even a smidgen of attacking intent, we go back to looking like one of the best teams in the league. Look at the Leeds & Forest matches this season, Norwich last season etc. Majority of the blame has to lie with Carlos’s negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) Players definitely need to step it up IMHO regardless of tactics. I like Hunt's sentiment, I think he's being honest but in all fairness it's just another piece in the press, saying the same thing we've heard repeatedly by other players since start of the season ... ...just quoting a different player this time. Dom Howson filling pages, hitting his targets, so he gets his pay cheque. If we have any chance of wresting back control of our own destiny this season we need to see out October with three wins Derby, Barnsley, Millwall. My only current criticism of Carlos is not tactics but his lack of ruthlessness - if players don't perform once then fair do's, put it down to a bad day at the office, but if the same core of players continually flounder and don't perform as you've set them up then drop them - simples; and yes that does include Bannan IMHO. Edited October 19, 2017 by F. Spiksley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanye West Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, FuthaMucker said: While I agree that there hasn’t been enough effort on the most part this season and you can add the Blades match to that too. But for me it’s not coincidence that when we do play with even a smidgen of attacking intent, we go back to looking like one of the best teams in the league. Look at the Leeds & Forest matches this season, Norwich last season etc. Majority of the blame has to lie with Carlos’s negativity. I’m only playing devils ascocate here, I can’t disagree with the fact we’re setting up too negatively, but the blame can be partly shared. Still agree it is time for Carlos to leave, but I just can’t see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Think ever since Star was first published you get bland stories like this after a bad defeat. I don't blame Jack Hunt as what else do you expect him to say but I cant help but groan when I read stuff like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, matthefish2002 said: Think ever since Star was first published you get bland stories like this after a bad defeat. I don't blame Jack Hunt as what else do you expect him to say but I cant help but groan when I read stuff like this. Isn't it? Howson wrote that on his phone whilst sitting on the sh*tter. It's not in depth, paraphrasing a thirty second chat he had with Jack Hunt, at best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Neg Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 The best thing that DC can do is make another purchase. A compass, because I suspect Carlos may have lost parts of the dressing room. Seriously though, whilst it is unprofessional but expected nowadays in football, if the players don't buy into what he's asking them to do then they won't perform well very often. How many of our players will currently feel they are making great strides in their career and how many journeymen have we got that would in fact be displaced if we were to get promoted. I think our squad needs a big motivator to come in, I think that is one of Carlos' weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyowl Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 how many times are we going to hear this? something needs to change & it's not going to be the players (unfortunately) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Owl Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Compared to the last two years many players way off form- Wallace, Lees in particular. We need a settled defence back to Hunt, Lees, Loovens and Pudil will help, and soon hopefully Westwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I think everyone needs to step up, from CC to the coaching staff to the players that are underperforming. Things need to change and fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Ronnie Starling said: If Loovens is deemed to be the answer then again our recruitment has been shown up to be wee wee poor. We needed to improve on Loovens long ago and we will see the team revert back to two static centre halfs unable to play out from the back with our play will slowing down even further. Don’t disagree with this bit, it would be ‘reverting to type’ (Hunt Lees Loovens Pudil) ...but I’d still rather have the organisation and leadership skills of Loovens - even if it means nipping for a wee and a pie and still seeing him stood on the ball when you come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Always amuses me when players speak, fans will complain at the banal platitudes, then players dont speak to the media and fans complain. Its always drivel anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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