soldierboyblue Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: Seems you are very supportive of our commercial side? Thought you might be on the payroll ? Being as you negative to anyone who slags the commercial side off I welcome your response ... He knows money (he spends a lot of time counting it does @casbahowl and not spending it). As has previously been stated the SWFC as a business has been failing for nigh on 2 decades and it is impossible to turn that round inside 2 years. Mistakes have been made and will probably continue to be but the negativity a lot of the posters on here to the commercial side and the reasoning behind some of it is at times laughable. I am more than confident that the business side will start to come right over the next 18-24 months, but as I have already said in many earlier posts we have been set up for premier league football with the executive boxes etc, so if we are unsuccessful in our promotion bid this year the business model will have to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, soldierboyblue said: He knows money (he spends a lot of time counting it does @casbahowl and not spending it). As has previously been stated the SWFC as a business has been failing for nigh on 2 decades and it is impossible to turn that round inside 2 years. Mistakes have been made and will probably continue to be but the negativity a lot of the posters on here to the commercial side and the reasoning behind some of it is at times laughable. I am more than confident that the business side will start to come right over the next 18-24 months, but as I have already said in many earlier posts we have been set up for premier league football with the executive boxes etc, so if we are unsuccessful in our promotion bid this year the business model will have to change. 5 minutes ago, soldierboyblue said: He knows money (he spends a lot of time counting it does @casbahowl and not spending it). As has previously been stated the SWFC as a business has been failing for nigh on 2 decades and it is impossible to turn that round inside 2 years. Mistakes have been made and will probably continue to be but the negativity a lot of the posters on here to the commercial side and the reasoning behind some of it is at times laughable. I am more than confident that the business side will start to come right over the next 18-24 months, but as I have already said in many earlier posts we have been set up for premier league football with the executive boxes etc, so if we are unsuccessful in our promotion bid this year the business model will have to change. This isn't Rocket Science ...... I know how sales and commerce works If you put tat on the shelves and disguise it as a quality item and charge premium price you will lose your LOYAL money spending regulars in a non specific timeline In other words if you are knocking out gear on a market you have an escape route if you are an established 150 year old business built around the "Working Class "you can't run away ... We are years off the Premier League You are deluded if you think we are going to become Arsenal Spurs Chelsea (not you personally Chansiri) There isn't the wage infastructure up here for that model This is Yorkshire The whole commercial side is a Shambles this has been "washed out in public"with the 150 year celebrations from the season start. Put a good team on the pitch With a manager who knows what he is doing Provide a kit for the fans that they aspire to . And don't palm the hard working money spending supporters who are loyal customers (they are the lifeblood of the club) with pipe dreams and bull This isn't Islington or knightsbridge it's Hillsborough -Yorkshire.. People want value for their money not some old tat They won't be fobbed off I kid you not .. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: This isn't Rocket Science ...... I know how sales and commerce works If you put tat on the shelves and disguise it as a quality item and charge premium price you will lose your LOYAL money spending regulars in a non specific timeline In other words if you are knocking out gear on a market you have an escape route if you are an established 150 year old business built around the "Working Class "you can't run away ... We are years off the Premier League You are deluded if you think we are going to become Arsenal Spurs Chelsea (not you personally Chansiri) There isn't the wage infastructure up here for that model This is Yorkshire The whole commercial side is a Shambles this has been "washed out in public"with the 150 year celebrations from the season start. Put a good team on the pitch With a manager who knows what he is doing Provide a kit for the fans that they aspire to . And don't palm the hard working money spending supporters who are loyal customers (they are the lifeblood of the club) with pipe dreams and bull This isn't Islington or knightsbridge it's Hillsborough -Yorkshire.. People want value for their money not some old tat They won't be fobbed off I kid you not .. I agree and that is where DC has been badly advised with regards ticket prices etc, I don't think DC ever thought we would become Chelsea etc in the short or middle term but long term he possibly has a vision to see us become a side that could be competing top 6 Prem League and the riches that this brings. The kit is a matter of opinion I personally like this years design but the whole availability piece is a joke and has cost the club a pretty penny. The whole thing as you quite rightly states needs to start on the pitch and I am a firm believer that if we get that right the rest will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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casbahowl Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 hours ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: Seems you are very supportive of our commercial side? Thought you might be on the payroll ? Being as you negative to anyone who slags the commercial side off I welcome your response ... I would like to think I'm very supportive of the club as a whole. In my opinion that's the role of a genuine supporter. Being a Wednesdayite is never going to be easy but then again a "calling" never usually is. I tend to neg other posters who blindly slag off my club whilst either not attending matches nor offering a reasonable alternative to their vitriol, that is my perogative, others escape the neg for providing said alternative . Having watched us play on 119 different grounds in Britain , Europe and the USA I feel I have as much right as anyone on here to post, agree/disagree or neg anyone I feel like. Glad you welcome my response , I'm usually in the Shakey pre/post home matches and am always up for debate if you're ever in . 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 hours ago, casbahowl said: I would like to think I'm very supportive of the club as a whole. In my opinion that's the role of a genuine supporter. Being a Wednesdayite is never going to be easy but then again a "calling" never usually is. I tend to neg other posters who blindly slag off my club whilst either not attending matches nor offering a reasonable alternative to their vitriol, that is my perogative, others escape the neg for providing said alternative . Having watched us play on 119 different grounds in Britain , Europe and the USA I feel I have as much right as anyone on here to post, agree/disagree or neg anyone I feel like. Glad you welcome my response , I'm usually in the Shakey pre/post home matches and am always up for debate if you're ever in . I'm celebrating 50 years next January since my very first game I attended at Hillsborough And like you I feel I've earned my stripes over the years to say what I think about "my team" believe you me I've seen someshite. But I've also seen some fantastic Wednesday moments . Usually on here most of my posts are "tongue in cheek" after all "The Wednesday way" has to be done that way, otherwise you would run out of Vallium!! I travel 200 mile round trip to home games and duck n dive the away games Mainly in the opposition end I've done that for over 33 years,I'm Hillsborough born and bred but not lived in the city since 1984 had season tickets and chucked them in the bin half way through a season so yes neg me all you like when I post a gag . I really don't think everyone on here uses it for the serious stuff because I've never met a True Owl who's serious... Not been in the Shakey since early 80's but I will pop in and buy you a pint in the near future.. Are you a "Strummer" Casbah Or a" Sharkey" Casbah Just thought singing the right song might find you ? Kind regards O/G xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: I'm celebrating 50 years next January since my very first game I attended at Hillsborough And like you I feel I've earned my stripes over the years to say what I think about "my team" believe you me I've seen someshite. But I've also seen some fantastic Wednesday moments . Usually on here most of my posts are "tongue in cheek" after all "The Wednesday way" has to be done that way, otherwise you would run out of Vallium!! I travel 200 mile round trip to home games and duck n dive the away games Mainly in the opposition end I've done that for over 33 years,I'm Hillsborough born and bred but not lived in the city since 1984 had season tickets and chucked them in the bin half way through a season so yes neg me all you like when I post a gag . I really don't think everyone on here uses it for the serious stuff because I've never met a True Owl who's serious... Not been in the Shakey since early 80's but I will pop in and buy you a pint in the near future.. Are you a "Strummer" Casbah Or a" Sharkey" Casbah Just thought singing the right song might find you ? Kind regards O/G xx Strummer every time pal & the beers on me ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 2 hours ago, casbahowl said: Strummer every time pal & the beers on me ! Christ thats a first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 8 hours ago, soldierboyblue said: Christ thats a first I'm confident OG would get his round in. Unfortunately I don't have the same confidence in you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 50 years coming up for me too at the beginning of November I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 hours ago, casbahowl said: I'm confident OG would get his round in. Unfortunately I don't have the same confidence in you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 On 19/10/2017 at 11:52, soldierboyblue said: He knows money (he spends a lot of time counting it does @casbahowl and not spending it). As has previously been stated the SWFC as a business has been failing for nigh on 2 decades and it is impossible to turn that round inside 2 years. Mistakes have been made and will probably continue to be but the negativity a lot of the posters on here to the commercial side and the reasoning behind some of it is at times laughable. I am more than confident that the business side will start to come right over the next 18-24 months, but as I have already said in many earlier posts we have been set up for premier league football with the executive boxes etc, so if we are unsuccessful in our promotion bid this year the business model will have to change. The posters saying there's nothing in our store but Dem Blades store is full of stuff...not actually taking in that there store is probably a third of ours and if we put the stock we have into theirs it would look chocka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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