@owlstalk Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Whenever a team is doing badly and the manger is under fire and looking nervously around him to see if he's about to be handed his P45, there always seems to be a run of bad luck. Whether that's with injuries to your best players (we have been without Lee, Westwood, Hutch, Loovens, Forestieri etc etc) or with incidents like the above where one of the outfield players pulls of a magnificent save with his hands. You gotta feel for Carlos right now. Sends his players out to play and they just let us all down, and then incidents like this happen too. I hope we have a good run now starting with the next game so the critics of Carlos can see we've got a solid manager at Sheffield Wednesday Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Winning is always a matter of being lucky - ask any loser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul92vr6 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Morning Carlos, have you packed your bags yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 21 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Whenever a team is doing badly and the manger is under fire and looking nervously around him to see if he's about to be handed his P45, there always seems to be a run of bad luck. Whether that's with injuries to your best players (we have been without Lee, Westwood, Hutch, Loovens, Forestieri etc etc) or with incidents like the above where one of the outfield players pulls of a magnificent save with his hands. You gotta feel for Carlos right now. Sends his players out to play and they just let us all down, and then incidents like this happen too. I hope we have a good run now starting with the next game so the critics of Carlos can see we've got a solid manager at Sheffield Wednesday The incident you’re referring to resulted in a goal anyway. The lad should’ve been sent off though, it was blatant cheating. The Lee penalty appeal is the one that would’ve likely given us a draw. That was a stone wall penalty. To book Lee for diving was criminal. We’ve not been getting decisions from the refs again, but regardless Carlos is rightly under pressure because of issues that have been present for over a year now, and seemingly nothing has been done about it. The defending has been diabolical in recent months, and we’ve been poor in attack. We have one of the leagues best strikers, but appear to have ruined him. Just a couple of issues there that really concern me. I’m fed up of the same lethargic start to games. I’m fed up of sh*t teams bullying us, and I’m fed up of watching us have no clue how to play against teams that throw the kitchen sink at us. Carlos seems to worry about the opposition too much, he needs to get back to the mindset that he had in season 1....but I think it’s too late for that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S6 Lifelong Owl Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Whenever a team is doing badly and the manger is under fire and looking nervously around him to see if he's about to be handed his P45, there always seems to be a run of bad luck. Whether that's with injuries to your best players (we have been without Lee, Westwood, Hutch, Loovens, Forestieri etc etc) or with incidents like the above where one of the outfield players pulls of a magnificent save with his hands. You gotta feel for Carlos right now. Sends his players out to play and they just let us all down, and then incidents like this happen too. I hope we have a good run now starting with the next game so the critics of Carlos can see we've got a solid manager at Sheffield Wednesday Which planet are you on? He's lost the plot with his tactics, teams like Birmingham and Bolton were there to be had if we had just gone at them instead of tip tapping about, sorry but every other team in the division has us sussed, 2 points from the 4 matches against the bottom 4 teams so far tells us exactly where we are going and it ain't the Premier League. Unfortunately Mr Chansiris naivety with regard to football means that he probably won't sack him but the club is becoming a laughing stock both on and off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Gary Player used to say the more I practice the luckier I get. I watch the same mistakes week in week out i.e wide players that can't cross a ball, players taking too long to release the ball, corners that sail through to the back of the penalty area where yet again we have nobody or corners that can't be the first man free kicks that are threatening to supporters in row Z, distribution from goalkeepers and defenders that sail out of play, defenders who cannot defend and our left side being exploited game after game. What on earth does the coaching staff do in the week leading up to games to address these issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredmciverslovechild Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Burton's next home game after we drew there saw them concede four. Birmingham's next game after beating us saw them hammered 6-0 at Hull. The last time Bolton scored, before Saturday, was when they played us back in August. The only thing that's been "unlucky", if you can call it that, is for us to play probably the three worst sides in the league in consecutive away games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lees Tom Cat Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 The advertising boards don't help . " fastest ever lo-l" "-ing bitter" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Without question we have had some terrible luck. No doubt about it. Then again...being two goal down against a team who have failed to score a goal in nearly 700 minutes of action tells it own story. Luck undoubtedly plays a big part. You take it where you can get it. But you should never rely on getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlofOliveGrove Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 We shouldn't be allowing luck to be a factor. Got to put games to bed and then whether luck goes for or against you it matters not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swampyowl01 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 You really need to make ur mind up. One topic u r slating cc the next u have got ur tongue right up his bkside. It mite well be your website but you are as two faced as they come. U display no consistancy in ur topics at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cognacbarnowl Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 In fairness, Bolton could easily have had three men sent off ; the handball incident , the lunge on Fletch and the foul on Lee were all worthy of a red card : but with the squad we have we should be beating these teams without breaking a sweat. We shouldn't have to rely on the officials doing their jobs properly ; it's up to us to do our jobs properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adem Poric Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 It was blatant cheating and he should have been sent off. It was also an absolutely definite penalty. A no doubter. However, the first half was diabolical. Utterly ridiculous to set up how we did against a team as poor as Bolton. We played in the second half with a quick tempo, on the front foot. We still kept making mistakes at the back which gifted them chances but there was an urgency that wasn't there first half. There is no reason for us not to play like that all game. Luck didn't play a part in that. So fucking frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 A very prominent former sportsman once said, in sport you make your own luck. I tend to agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencerowl Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Slow day on here again then? Its really simple, you seem to have the worst luck when results don't go your way, we forget about the bad luck we have if we get a 1-0 win. Equally we get good luck in games and it's not mentioned. I don't think we are in any state that a fresh pair of eyes could not get us out of but the constant pot stiring isn't going to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, S6 Lifelong Owl said: Which planet are you on? The planet where posts and clicks = £££'s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Whenever a team is doing badly and the manger is under fire and looking nervously around him to see if he's about to be handed his P45, there always seems to be a run of bad luck. Whether that's with injuries to your best players (we have been without Lee, Westwood, Hutch, Loovens, Forestieri etc etc) or with incidents like the above where one of the outfield players pulls of a magnificent save with his hands. You gotta feel for Carlos right now. Sends his players out to play and they just let us all down, and then incidents like this happen too. I hope we have a good run now starting with the next game so the critics of Carlos can see we've got a solid manager at Sheffield Wednesday You're done it again. Your little pearls of wisdom, a little bit of the old petroleum onto the fire and watch it roar up. I have to have little titter everytime one of these posts crops up, because without reading them, know exactly what's coming. But credit where credits due, you certainly get a reaction. WAWAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 No excuses for the first half display. We don't play for 90 minutes under Carlos. Leeds game was clearly a one off. Slow starts and cautious tactics against absolutely bobbar teams like Bolton are inexcusable. Attack them from the go like we did in the second half and the game is ours. It's a pattern which has ran throughout his tenure here and it amazes me he's still in a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 We've been unfortunate this season with some bad luck in games, however last season bar Derby away we had more than our fair share of luck throughout the season. In my opinion, we were very lucky to finish 4th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: No excuses for the first half display. We don't play for 90 minutes under Carlos. Leeds game was clearly a one off. Slow starts and cautious tactics against absolutely bobbar teams like Bolton are inexcusable. Attack them from the go like we did in the second half and the game is ours. It's a pattern which has ran throughout his tenure here and it amazes me he's still in a job. It's not even just that for me. I wouldn't expect many teams to attack for 90 minutes and stroll to victory. But we don't even try in the first half of games, we don't compete for 2nd balls. We sit back and play slow sloppy football with no movement. The opposition gains so much confidence and belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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