Lord Snooty Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I'm one of those that tends to back managers to the hilt. For what it's worth I'm not sure we'll see any change. But there is clearly something not right. Now I don't judge players based on how much they cost either, I judge them on what I see on the pitch. And I see good players, players other clubs would be delighted to have, looking bang average. Something is wrong. Been wrong for a while. I'm not even sure it's tactical either. I think it's motivation. I see these players and can't help but think with a motivator they'd be higher. Ok we hate hum, but I'm only using him as an example, you look at someone like Warnock. We'd be higher. Dyche another. A man who gets the best out of men. I'm not even drunk. Frustrating. So....so frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) The apathy has set in. You don't come back from that. Edited October 14, 2017 by Orlando_Trustful 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Lord Snooty said: I'm one of those that tends to back managers to the hilt. For what it's worth I'm not sure we'll see any change. But there is clearly something not right. Now I don't judge players based on how much they cost either, I judge them on what I see on the pitch. And I see good players, players other clubs would be delighted to have, looking bang average. Something is wrong. Been wrong for a while. I'm not even sure it's tactical either. I think it's motivation. I see these players and can't help but think with a motivator they'd be higher. Ok we hate hum, but I'm only using him as an example, you look at someone like Warnock. We'd be higher. Dyche another. A man who gets the best out of men. I'm not even drunk. Frustrating. So....so frustrating. I agree with you. We need a new head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Once a manager loses the fans , its only a matter of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, Orlando_Trustful said: The apathy has set it. You don't come back from that. Exactly. The project has run its course. We're seeing apathy, tune out, and stale ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Owl Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I agree Snoots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlofOliveGrove Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I'd take Warnock as manager in a heartbeat right now. Granted I'd rather have Holloway, Heckingbottom, McCarthy or Karanka but the point stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 There does seem to be a motivation issue. It's hard to explain the number of games under CC whereby we don't get going till half time. Oddly enough, the players do seem to respond to whatever CC has to say at half time, so the question is why can't he say what he says at half time before the game starts?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffed Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 We can’t stand teams who close us down. Certain players can’t hack it when they aren’t given time on the ball. We’re great against teams who want to play football, give us time and space and we are dangerous. Close us down and we are useless. not just this season but since Carlos came....and he has done NOTHING in 3 seasons to address it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 No sheite Sherlock !! Looking forward to the new hunt for a motivator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash60s Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 They can't pick n choose when to perform It's gotta be EVERY game Mystery.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 It’s pretty telling that we follow up our best performance of the season with a dismal defeat at the bottom side. Time for a change as these players simply aren’t performing for the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dehowl Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: I'm one of those that tends to back managers to the hilt. For what it's worth I'm not sure we'll see any change. But there is clearly something not right. Now I don't judge players based on how much they cost either, I judge them on what I see on the pitch. And I see good players, players other clubs would be delighted to have, looking bang average. Something is wrong. Been wrong for a while. I'm not even sure it's tactical either. I think it's motivation. I see these players and can't help but think with a motivator they'd be higher. Ok we hate hum, but I'm only using him as an example, you look at someone like Warnock. We'd be higher. Dyche another. A man who gets the best out of men. I'm not even drunk. Frustrating. So....so frustrating. Agreed, Snoots. 3 points lost to a side that is going back down to the pub league. Time for some fresh impetus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueOwl Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) If Harry Redknapp would work for free for a couple o' months just to land the job on a provisional basis with a view to a rolling deal like Carlos I'd consider him. Last chance saloon time for us both but he plays attacking direct football, he knows a good signing, promotion and prem experience and Brum are utter dogger but he did keep them up and I would be interested to see what he could do with our squad on this basis if he would come. Edited October 14, 2017 by TrueOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Miffed said: We can’t stand teams who close us down. Certain players can’t hack it when they aren’t given time on the ball. We’re great against teams who want to play football, give us time and space and we are dangerous. Close us down and we are useless. not just this season but since Carlos came....and he has done NOTHING in 3 seasons to address it. Absolutely this - It was obvious from the start of season that teams had us sussed - too many players go missing when hustled by the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Said for ages something aint right, all these players we have who are really good players are just not performing, we should be beating most teams comfortably with the squad we have available to us, we should be comfortable in games, we should be attacking teams and scoring goals for fun , but here we are struggling against the worst team in this league, who could have had a hat full to be fair, it's not a new thing this it's been like this since after our 1st Wembley visit, Carlos has changed and changed the team for the worse, he's holding the team back. Even the most deluded among us can't realistically claim we will be up there at the end of the season unless something changes, and i dont mean for just one match, like the Leeds game the other week or the Norwich one last season, it's not good enough.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mercury Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 12 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: I'm one of those that tends to back managers to the hilt. For what it's worth I'm not sure we'll see any change. But there is clearly something not right. Now I don't judge players based on how much they cost either, I judge them on what I see on the pitch. And I see good players, players other clubs would be delighted to have, looking bang average. Something is wrong. Been wrong for a while. I'm not even sure it's tactical either. I think it's motivation. I see these players and can't help but think with a motivator they'd be higher. Ok we hate hum, but I'm only using him as an example, you look at someone like Warnock. We'd be higher. Dyche another. A man who gets the best out of men. I'm not even drunk. Frustrating. So....so frustrating. Allardyce would have this team flying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 We are that bad as a team, the pigs and Cardiff are joint top at the moment. If that doesn't tell us some thing then........ there's no hope. A load of posters were spaffing earlier about the so called reserve side we could put out against Bolton. So yes, there' s something radically wrong down at S6. This as to be sorted this year not next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bigglesworth Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, OwlofOliveGrove said: I'd take Warnock as manager in a heartbeat right now. Granted I'd rather have Holloway, Heckingbottom, McCarthy or Karanka but the point stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BULGARIA Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Socialist_Owl said: Exactly. The project has run its course. We're seeing apathy, tune out, and stale ideas. Nail on head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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