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Football was RUBBISH in the 1960's

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1 minute ago, torryowl said:

colin Dobson is the missing player I think .......that team more or less never changed for about 2 years ....holliday ,pearson , hill  a young Eustace & hardy  made appearances but that's the 1st eleven I remember 

 

yes Dobson who made that fantastic diving headed goal from Layne against Wolves the day after JFK got killed

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1 minute ago, daveyboy66 said:

yes Dobson who made that fantastic diving headed goal from Layne against Wolves the day after JFK got killed

funny what you can remember , I was struggling to recall  who scored against  forest the other week ......................in fact still am

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4 minutes ago, torryowl said:

colin Dobson is the missing player I think .......that team more or less never changed for about 2 years ....holliday ,pearson , hill  a young Eustace & hardy  made appearances but that's the 1st eleven I remember ...................oops delete kay and put in Gerry young 

 

Yes. The inside forwards were where I had the problem.  Colin Dobson, Bobby Craig, Billy Griffin, Pancho Pearson.

Got a feeling Dobson often played on the wing?

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The Germany 5-0 wasn't a rubbish game.  I was there.  Also saw Germany beat Uruguay 4-0 at Hillsboro.  And went to the other two WC matches at Hillsboro.

 

W.Germany were easily the best side in the tournament.  They would have won it, I think, but for a wee wee tail-eyed Azerbaijani linesman.

 

The fans were brilliant.  Especially the Argentinians.  I stood with them in the rain on the Kop.  They were bouncing 40 years before us.

 

Maybe football then wasn't quite up to todays exacting standards but so what?  Watching that was better than playing with my yo-yo or sister's Hula Hoop.   Some of you lot don't know how lucky you are, with your fancy dan computers and mobile phones.  Not quite the same spending a night with a slide rule.

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We used to live in a lake.

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3 minutes ago, Ibbo48 said:

Yes. The inside forwards were where I had the problem.  Colin Dobson, Bobby Craig, Billy Griffin, Pancho Pearson.

Got a feeling Dobson often played on the wing?

Dobson played on the wing when I 1st went and then got moved to inside right when craig left .....wiilkinson got injured and holliday came in for him on the left .I know I saw pearson but cant recall much about him unlike holliday who was borderline useless ........I don't think I saw griffin but when you look at his record for us its amazing that they sold him to bury .........always think the1st years supporting the club as a child are the best , the players were hero's .

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1 hour ago, alanharper said:

I'll tell you who was rubbish - that Pele bloke. All of his most famous moments were cockups. 

 

That header against Gordon Banks when it was easier to score - MISSED 

 

Shooting from the halfway line thinking he's it - MISSED

 

Dummying the keeper to get himself an open goal - MISSED 

 

And now he's most famous for not being actually able to get a cockup.  Pele was RUBBISH.

 

Love it, reads even better if you imagine Alan Partridge saying it as though he actually believes it!

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Now now OP. Either you're being intentionally provocative or you weren't at that match and the others at Hillsbro in 66. I was and the West Germany/Swiss match still brings back happy memories of a full blooded open exciting match, far more so than the pass it back, sideways, back again - repeat ad nauseam that most  of the current bloated world cups produce.

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2 minutes ago, torryowl said:

Dobson played on the wing when I 1st went and then got moved to inside right when craig left .....wiilkinson got injured and holliday came in for him on the left .I know I saw pearson but cant recall much about him unlike holliday who was borderline useless ........I don't think I saw griffin but when you look at his record for us its amazing that they sold him to bury .........always think the1st years supporting the club as a child are the best , the players were hero's .

Very true.

I forgot to give a mention to Keith Ellis who I remember getting stick when I was a nipper. That hat trick against Man U at Old Trafford shut them up for a bit.

Great days. No squad rotation. Same names week in week out, win or lose. I don't care what anyone says, there's some legendary names amongst that lot.

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1 hour ago, Flat Owl said:

     GOALS             16'  1-0  Siegfried Held (assist - Uwe Seeler)
                       20'  2-0  Helmut Haller (assist - Wolfgang Overath)
                       40'  3-0  Franz Beckenbauer (assist - Uwe Seeler)
                       52'  4-0  Franz Beckenbauer (assist - Wolfgang Overath)
                       78'  5-0  Helmut Haller (penalty)


     REFEREE           Hugh Phillips (Scotland)
     LINESMEN          John Adair (Northern Ireland)
                       Bertil Lööw (Sweden)

     EXPULSIONS        -

     ATTENDANCE        36,127




     WEST GERMANY                        AGE   D.O.B.        CLUB
      1 GK Hans Tilkowski                 31   12 Jul 1935   Borussia Dortmund
      2 DF Horst-Dieter Höttges           22   10 Sep 1943   Werder Bremen
      3 DF Karl-Heinz Schnellinger        27   31 Mar 1939   AC Milan (ITA)
      5 DF Willi Schulz                   27   04 Oct 1938   Hamburger SV
      6 DF Wolfgang Weber                 22   26 Jun 1944   1.FC Cologne
      4 MD Franz Beckenbauer              20   11 Sep 1945   Bayern Munich
      7 MD Albert Brülls                  29   26 Mar 1937   Brescia (ITA)
      8 MD Helmut Haller                  26   21 Jul 1939   Bologna (ITA)
     12 MD Wolfgang Overath               22   29 Sep 1943   1.FC Cologne
      9 FW Uwe Seeler (c)                 29   05 Nov 1936   Hamburger SV
     10 FW Siegfried Held                 23   07 Aug 1942   Borussia Dortmund

     Coach: Helmut Schön                  50   15 Sep 1915



     SWITZERLAND                         AGE   D.O.B.        CLUB
      1 GK Karl Elsener                   31   13 Aug 1934   Lausanne-Sport
      7 DF Hansrüdi Fuhrer                28   24 Dec 1937   Young Boys Berne
      9 DF Andre Grobety                  33   22 Jun 1933   Lausanne-Sport
     18 DF Heinz Schneiter (c)            31   12 Apr 1935   Young Boys Berne
     20 DF Ely Tacchella                  30   25 May 1936   Lausanne-Sport
      4 MD Heinz Bäni                     29   18 Nov 1936   FC Zürich
      6 MD Richard Dürr                   27   01 Dec 1938   Lausanne-Sport
     10 FW Robert Hosp                    26   13 Dec 1939   Lausanne-Sport
     13 FW Fritz Künzli                   20   08 Jan 1946   FC Zürich
     15 FW Karl Odermatt                  23   17 Dec 1942   FC Basel
     17 FW Jean-Claude Schindelholz       25   11 Oct 1940   Servette Genf

     Coach: Alfredo Foni (ITA)            55   20 Jan 1911

 

Congratulations and well done West Germany.

 

Unlucky Switzerland.

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1 hour ago, Ibbo48 said:

Very true.

I forgot to give a mention to Keith Ellis who I remember getting stick when I was a nipper. That hat trick against Man U at Old Trafford shut them up for a bit.

Great days. No squad rotation. Same names week in week out, win or lose. I don't care what anyone says, there's some legendary names amongst that lot.

keith ellis is a good call ...52 goals in a 100 games and your right the fans got on his back ...he'd be worth about 80 million with that record today and I think we sold to him Scunthorpe for about 10 grand ...though his replacement wernt bad 

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Weird OP. For starters he isn't old enough to have directly witnessed any football from the 60's which makes any judgement from him worthless.

 

Speaking from my own point of view as someone who started going in '67 (but who also watched the '66 Cup Final and the entire World Cup on telly as a 7 year old) it was about the magic of the game, the magic of being there, the excitement, the atmosphere.

 

I suspect that none of us old enough to have experienced it gave a stuff about the technical ability, it was about the entertainment value and there was plenty of that around. In fact I'd gladly turn the clock back 50 years and go through it all again, even the 70's when from a football point of view we really were crap!

 

Give me 40K+ crowds on a regular basis and the occasional glory moment or season against the over commercialised spectacle we have now any day of the week, and especially the camaraderie of the fans!

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1 minute ago, Utah Owl said:

Weird OP. For starters he isn't old enough to have directly witnessed any football from the 60's which makes any judgement from him worthless.



Just watched it on the video in the OP!

The standard is RUBBISH!

 

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2 hours ago, torryowl said:

funny what you can remember , I was struggling to recall  who scored against  forest the other week ......................in fact still am

It was the minutes silence that I remember...struggled not to start giggling cos' didn't realise the importance...I remember that header though...from the edge of the box

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3 hours ago, Utah Owl said:

Weird OP. For starters he isn't old enough to have directly witnessed any football from the 60's which makes any judgement from him worthless.

 

Speaking from my own point of view as someone who started going in '67 (but who also watched the '66 Cup Final and the entire World Cup on telly as a 7 year old) it was about the magic of the game, the magic of being there, the excitement, the atmosphere.

 

I suspect that none of us old enough to have experienced it gave a stuff about the technical ability, it was about the entertainment value and there was plenty of that around. In fact I'd gladly turn the clock back 50 years and go through it all again, even the 70's when from a football point of view we really were crap!

 

Give me 40K+ crowds on a regular basis and the occasional glory moment or season against the over commercialised spectacle we have now any day of the week, and especially the camaraderie of the fans!

I went Crazy when Pak do Wick (whatever) put South Korea 3-0 up against Portugal at Goodison Park and the game had been ignored for live coverage !

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1 hour ago, Emilianenko said:

We had rubbish fans in the 60s judging by the replies in this thread.

We have dire fans now judging by the last two seasons !

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5 hours ago, daveyboy66 said:

yes Dobson who made that fantastic diving headed goal from Layne against Wolves the day after JFK got killed

The Sundays had diagrams of how Dobson held up play for so long with three neat little overhead kicks before delivering the perfect ball for Laynes diving header.

One of the best I have ever seen. 

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