owlsmad Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 With regard to my thoughts on Carlos, I have been a fence sitter since that playoff defeat last season. I was neither for nor against him remaining at our club, I simply didn't know how I felt. He made some odd tactical decisions, we seemed to sign quality players and not play them and in general the football was becoming a bit stale. On saying that, you can't dispute the fact his first two seasons in control have been with relative success. Occording to the RS pundits, although we fans believed we had again started slow we were in fact in a better position than last season. So on this basis, surly you should back the manager.... NO! Having listened to the RS interview, I am dumbfounded. United were fired up for that game yesterday, they might as well of fielded 11 life long blades fans and they'd still have won. Not one of our players look fired up, or even seemed to understand what it meant to us wednesdayites. Carlos said in the interview, the fact it was a derby was not really discussed before the game! SERIOUSLY? I'd be shoving it down their throats as soon as they get in for training and until they leave. To say he shoulders the responsibility for the loss and the players should get no pressure, WTF? The players should fear the manager and the b******ing they're about to get after such a pathetic performance. These are grown men that get paid plenty and I'm sure they're big enough to deal with the backlash from the manager, pundits and fans. If not, they are in the wrong job. A defeat is a defeat and we move on, but the manner of that defeat yesterday and the response from Carlos.... it just beggars belief! I want a manager that screams at the players when they're under performing, not just standing their with his hands in his pockets. If a player is having a stinker, get him subbed. Make an example of him, put a bit of fear into the other players. Granted it was a hard choice as to who to replace yesterday, they were all dog sh!te. Carlos's softly softly approach just doesn't do it for me. Give me passion, give me foaming at the mouth anger and ranting, give me publicly bashing the players that don't perform and make them scared! I will always support whoever is at the helm and the players on the field. I will never boo the team, that's the responsibility of the manager. I love my club and will follow them through thick and thin, it's in my blood. But for the love of god, please Mr Chansiri.... make a change. Time to go Carlos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 He was locked in the dressing room with the squad for some time after the game. What he says to a nobody on Radio Sheffield won't be what he says to the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, owlsmad said: With regard to my thoughts on Carlos, I have been a fence sitter since that playoff defeat last season. I was neither for nor against him remaining at our club, I simply didn't know how I felt. He made some odd tactical decisions, we seemed to sign quality players and not play them and in general the football was becoming a bit stale. On saying that, you can't dispute the fact his first two seasons in control have been with relative success. Occording to the RS pundits, although we fans believed we had again started slow we were in fact in a better position than last season. So on this basis, surly you should back the manager.... NO! Having listened to the RS interview, I am dumbfounded. United were fired up for that game yesterday, they might as well of fielded 11 life long blades fans and they'd still have won. Not one of our players look fired up, or even seemed to understand what it meant to us wednesdayites. Carlos said in the interview, the fact it was a derby was not really discussed before the game! SERIOUSLY? I'd be shoving it down their throats as soon as they get in for training and until they leave. To say he shoulders the responsibility for the loss and the players should get no pressure, WTF? The players should fear the manager and the b******ing they're about to get after such a pathetic performance. These are grown men that get paid plenty and I'm sure they're big enough to deal with the backlash from the manager, pundits and fans. If not, they are in the wrong job. A defeat is a defeat and we move on, but the manner of that defeat yesterday and the response from Carlos.... it just beggars belief! I want a manager that screams at the players when they're under performing, not just standing their with his hands in his pockets. If a player is having a stinker, get him subbed. Make an example of him, put a bit of fear into the other players. Granted it was a hard choice as to who to replace yesterday, they were all dog sh!te. Carlos's softly softly approach just doesn't do it for me. Give me passion, give me foaming at the mouth anger and ranting, give me publicly bashing the players that don't perform and make them scared! I will always support whoever is at the helm and the players on the field. I will never boo the team, that's the responsibility of the manager. I love my club and will follow them through thick and thin, it's in my blood. But for the love of god, please Mr Chansiri.... make a change. Time to go Carlos. After that Boro game in the first season a lot of players said they were shocked at how he tore into them at half time,,,giving how we started the second half do you really believe he didn't do the same yesterday ? As for giving local radio ammunition to criticise the players why thefuck would you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woozie Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 3 hours ago, 0wl18 said: He claims he doesn't pull players up on bad performances, doesn't call them out on mistakes He probably meant that he doesn't do it in public. What good would shaming the players on local radio do? It was an abysmal performance but it should be dealt with in private. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Lincs Owl said: Embarrassing individual players on the radio won't help us. What Carlos does behind the scenes might be another matter. That's why he's a manager and you lot aren't. And organising a poll on sacking cc minutes after losing at home to our arch rivals is poll fixing on a scale which western Ukraine would be proud of. Poll fixing ffs! Don't whatever you do judge him on his results. Judge him on what someone from the internet speculates he is doing behind the scenes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlsmad Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 2 hours ago, daveyboy66 said: After that Boro game in the first season a lot of players said they were shocked at how he tore into them at half time,,,giving how we started the second half do you really believe he didn't do the same yesterday ? As for giving local radio ammunition to criticise the players why thefuck would you I just want a manager who shows a bit of passion when you're losing 2-0 to your bitter rivals in the first fithteen minutes, rather than standing bemused with his hands in his pockets. I'm not saying he should always publicly name and shame the players, but to totally deflect any blame from them and say we were startled by going a goal down.... its football ffs, what do they expect. To often in interviews Carlos waffles some tosh and skirts around telling us what's really going off. The occasional team or player bashing, is the kick up the arse they so rightly deserve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) So jumping up and down on the touchline is the way to go Edited September 25, 2017 by akbuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieswfc Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, akbuk said: So jumping up and down on the touchline is the way to go Sometimes yes. Seeing a bit of urgency from the leader yesterday may have rubbed off on the pitch. Rather than jogging around like it doesn't matter they might have actually broke a sweat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwokenGiant Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, 0wl18 said: During his interview with Radio Sheffield yesterday, Carlos was asked what he thought to certain players performances. He gave his usual skirting around the question answer claiming he was the one to blame etc. Rob pushed him though and claimed in these situations after a derby loss in such horrific fashion, the players have to take some repsonsibility. Carlos disagreed and absolutely astounded me. He claims he doesn't pull players up on bad performances, doesn't call them out on mistakes but, just tells the to try again? This is the 2nd division of English football not the under 7's ffs. No wonder we go around in circles. Hunt, Jones, Lees, Van Aken, Reach and Westwood all put in a 4/10 performance yesterday. If they try again i'm sure they'll get it right. Thought he took the stick on the chin - he said he got it wrong with the tactics and the first 15 of the second half showed that to be so. That said there were a shed load of individual errors and poor performances - but no manager worth their salt would hang their players out to dry in the general public. I'm sure it will all be dealt with internally and rightly so. Edited September 25, 2017 by AwokenGiant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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