pgmetcalf Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Not a kneejerk reaction? Why bother to mention it now then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watford_owl Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 1 minute ago, parkfieldowl14 said: i'd give 4 more games in which to see some real momentum,If Not DC has to act quickly before our season Implodes. 4 more like this and we will be looking at relegation battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzlebeak Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Just now, owlmanc said: Whose going to defend him? Judging by today none of our back 4 Beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simaniac Owl Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Well said OP. Time for a real football manager. Time for to finish what he started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlmanc Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Rogerwyldesmullet said: Give over. Lees and Van A had a mare with 10 more minutes at 2-2 we would have won. And If every shot we had went in we would have scored 10 Zzzz Edited September 24, 2017 by owlmanc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Watford_owl said: 4 more like this and we will be looking at relegation battle. hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightace Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dan™ said: Blaming Carlos after this game? Seems like many fans have been blinded by the occasion and lost sense of perspective. Maybe but we do lack bottle. But who signs the players. Who sets the team up. I can count on one hand the games we have played really well this season and last. We keep scraping results like against Brentford and Cardiff and then kid ourselves we are better than we are. It's those times we probably overreact more than times like this. This game highlighted some of the problems that we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzOwl Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Dan™ said: Blaming Carlos after this game? Seems like many fans have been blinded by the occasion and lost sense of perspective. "Who's going to defend him now"? looks like Dan™ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted September 24, 2017 Author Share Posted September 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, pgmetcalf said: Not a kneejerk reaction? Why bother to mention it now then? I and many others have said it plenty times before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pussface Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 The blades will do the double in us this season. We will scrape into the playoffs (again) and get knocked out with a limp performance (again) and yet fans will still defend him. Only 1 game from the prem etc. I was very disappointed he was given yet another chance, even after spunking nearly £20 million on players who don't or rarely start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheffWedsince86 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Does Carlos chose the players he signs? I can't see any logic in our signings. We've possibly got 3 of the best in the box strikers in the league. But where is the width and pace to get the ball in. Has Carlos been strong enough to say to recruitment look I need someone who can cross a ball. Surely he sees this? What's the game plan? If your not going to have wingers then need pace up top. Similarly I don't like how Carlos sets out the midfield. It worked first season. If we look at when we score, always we second half, surely he must see he sets his tactics teams up incorrect. I don't post often but we've wasted a lot of money on this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I'd take Derby defeats and a promotion, but his Inability to understand/motivate for this game and the playoffs has left me fuming. We didnt need to hear a measured interview from him just now. He doesn't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I have read plenty of comments on here belittling Wilder. Today Carlos was comprehensively out thought and out played by his opposite number. I was ambivalent as to whether Carlos should stay but, if ever there was a game that displayed that he is not the man to take the club forward, it was played out this afternoon. Comprehensively second best to an outfit like that with goals scored by a player we discarded and laughed at. Pack your bags Carlos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papalazarowl Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Players fault.. not Carlos.. he didn't set up the wall for the first... lack of dicipline for the second...2 defenders against 1 for the fourth.. should have been sorted.. however.. we lost.. we take it.. and move on and do the leeds scum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papalazarowl Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Players fault.. not Carlos.. he didn't set up the wall for the first... lack of dicipline for the second...2 defenders against 1 for the fourth.. should have been sorted.. however.. we lost.. we take it.. and move on and do the leeds scum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Plenty will. If we keep him, we're topping ourselves. Really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Me then... I've been for a long time in the Carlos out brigade. But not in this match, at 2-2 there was only going to be one winner, us. But the players gifted them 3 of their 4 goals, no manager can plan for that, they looked a good side, the best away side I've seen at Hillsborough for ages. They played well, got lucky with the third goal, that foooked us big time. They have a couple of class players whom were up for it. Really, they ain't such a bad side and when our players foooook up, even a poor team will take advantage....not CC's fault on this occasion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmJimmers Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I think it's now time to look in, after such a result, and start asking do we have the right people for the cause? I've backed Carlos time and again, and I want him to succeed so badly, but I just don't think he's got it in him after today. We have a squad that should be pushing for the top two, spent a lot of money, the fans are paying through the nose and now is the time to start delivering. How you can go 2-0 down inside 15 mins is one thing, to get back into it then collapse again is unforgivable. Are results and performance really at the level they need to be, in Carlos' third season, to be top 2? Are we looking like Newcastle, Brighton, Middlesbrough, Burnley etc that have gone up the past few years? I don't think we are, and I think I've finally lost faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG_1984 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 19 minutes ago, pussface said: The blades will do the double in us this season. We will scrape into the playoffs (again) and get knocked out with a limp performance (again) and yet fans will still defend him. Only 1 game from the prem etc. I was very disappointed he was given yet another chance, even after spunking nearly £20 million on players who don't or rarely start. Completely agree. As soon as the piggies got promoted I knew they'd do the double over us if Carlos was still in charge. His record in big games is atrocious but he knows how to grind out enough narrow victories to be play-off contenders, I know you only get 3 points for winning but this result hurts like flipping hell. It's as if the mind the gap season and everything since was for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Owl Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Carlos has some to blame for today but the massive majority of the blame needs to be laid at the players feet, especially the defeat, after that shambles. He signs the players (questionable), he picks them...then it's upto them. He can't do everything for them whilst they're on the pitch FFS, not only have the players lets us and themselves down but Carlos as well. Unfortunately the modern day football trend is to keep changing managers as and when the wind blows, although I'm yet to see any real examples that this approach works and I also don't understand who is a ready-made replacement for Carlos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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