Guest RocketOwl Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Well done on naming an unchanged line up for as long as I can remember. So why then start Lee left midfield? Utterley baffling. Another silly tactical change that keeps happening is bringing Rhodes on upfront on his own. If this is what he wants to do to close a game out fair enough buy bring Nuhiu or Joao on then. It's not fair on Rhodes, it's not game and it's not helping him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just now, RocketOwl said: Well done on naming an unchanged line up for as long as I can remember. So why then start Lee left midfield? Utterley baffling. Another silly tactical change that keeps happening is bringing Rhodes on upfront on his own. If this is what he wants to do to close a game out fair enough buy bring Nuhiu or Joao on then. It's not fair on Rhodes, it's not game and it's not helping him at all. Why find a negative at all ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just now, BARMYARMY2010 said: Why find a negative at all ? It's not a negative it's just pointing out a tactical concern. In fact if you went to that game there were plenty of concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just now, RocketOwl said: It's not a negative it's just pointing out a tactical concern. In fact if you went to that game there were plenty of concerns. Really !!! You congratulate for the unchanged line up,then............................. So why then start Lee left midfield? Utterley baffling. No your right,nothing negative about that. What difference does my attending make ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just now, BARMYARMY2010 said: Really !!! You congratulate for the unchanged line up,then............................. So why then start Lee left midfield? Utterley baffling. No your right,nothing negative about that. What difference does my attending make ? Starting Lee on the left of midfield was baffling if you can't see that fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Two excellent points. He actually started Bannan left, and if you noticed he hadn't touched the ball until their goal. He immediately switched Bannan and Lee, and though Bannan looked ten times the player and took control of our game, Lee then looked a lost soul. I also thought Bannan and especially Lee hung Reach out to dry tonight. He got less cover from midfield than I have seen before. Massive conundrum. Jones has done the business, but we are playing 3 CMs, a system that failed us badly last year. But in recent games it has got us results, and Reach at LB is proving successful. As for Rhodes, I felt so sorry for him late on once Hooper left. Hopeless up front on his own, yet he and we had looked really good with Hooper. Carlos brought Boyd on instead of Rhodes on Saturday, and gave him no partner tonight instead of giving him Joao. Very negative decisions. Yes six points of course. But negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Holmowl said: Two excellent points. He actually started Bannan left, and if you noticed he hadn't touched the ball until their goal. He immediately switched Bannan and Lee, and though Bannan looked ten times the player and took control of our game, Lee then looked a lost soul. I also thought Bannan and especially Lee hung Reach out to dry tonight. He got less cover from midfield than I have seen before. Massive conundrum. Jones has done the business, but we are playing 3 CMs, a system that failed us badly last year. But in recent games it has got us results, and Reach at LB is proving successful. As for Rhodes, I felt so sorry for him late on once Hooper left. Hopeless up front on his own, yet he and we had looked really good with Hooper. Carlos brought Boyd on instead of Rhodes on Saturday, and gave him no partner tonight instead of giving him Joao. Very negative decisions. Yes six points of course. But negative. Exactly. Naming an unchanged side was clearly done due to winning and keeping the fluency of the side together - yet moving Lee and Bannan around contradicted this and disrupted us. Bannan played well like you say but at cost to Reach and Lee. Rhodes is having a tough time and currently I don't think it's fair bringing him on as a sole striker when we all agree he isn't going to hold it up like Fletcher or run the lines like Joao. He needs to look after Rhodes and hand him a start in a two when Fletcher needs a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just now, RocketOwl said: Exactly. Naming an unchanged side was clearly done due to winning and keeping the fluency of the side together - yet moving Lee and Bannan around contradicted this and disrupted us. Bannan played well like you say but at cost to Reach and Lee. Rhodes is having a tough time and currently I don't think it's fair bringing him on as a sole striker when we all agree he isn't going to hold it up like Fletcher or run the lines like Joao. He needs to look after Rhodes and hand him a start in a two when Fletcher needs a rest. He needs two strikers on the field. The team needs the ball to stay up the field. Neither Hooper nor Rhodes will do that on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) CC and several of his backroom staff have spent untold hours analysing our opposition in great detail and then the average fan who has no football credentials whatsoever describes their actions as utterly baffling, Mmmmm. I assume they saw something that we missed and accept it as such. Edited September 12, 2017 by Morepork 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Such an easy game from the stands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Morepork said: CC and several of his backroom staff have spent untold hours analysing our opposition in great detail and then the average fan who has no football credentials whatsoever describes their actions as utterly baffling, Mmmmm. Doesn't mean they are right. Dave Jones and his staff had the same analysis time but were they right to play Jay Bothroyd constantly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just now, Ash76 said: Such an easy game from the stands It's easy for people to make sassy comments but how about reply with an actual reasoned response as to why Lee was playing left midfield????? Nah thought not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just now, RocketOwl said: Doesn't mean they are right. Dave Jones and his staff had the same analysis time but were they right to play Jay Bothroyd constantly? My money would go on them over you. So our backroom staff and prep under Jones is the same under CC, you seriously just made that argument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ash76 said: Such an easy game from the stands Exactly and with a few hours to reflect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Morepork said: My money would go on them over you. So our backroom staff and prep under Jones is the same under CC, you seriously just made that argument? So why did Carlos play Lee on the left of midfield today? And why did he change Lee back after 28 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, RocketOwl said: It's easy for people to make sassy comments but how about reply with an actual reasoned response as to why Lee was playing left midfield????? Nah thought not. Actually if you watched the game when Bannan came inside Lee just covered, the didn't swap for prolonged periods. But had they done so I couldn't be arsed to debate it with fans that think they know it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Morepork said: Exactly and with a few hours to reflect. Said as soon as I saw Lee on left what's he doing there and spent most of first half amazed at how exposed Reach was: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 16 minutes ago, BARMYARMY2010 said: Really !!! You congratulate for the unchanged line up,then............................. So why then start Lee left midfield? Utterley baffling. No your right,nothing negative about that. What difference does my attending make ? I think the OP raised a good point, yes we won but that first half WAS a huge concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Ash76 said: Actually if you watched the game when Bannan came inside Lee just covered, the didn't swap for prolonged periods. But had they done so I couldn't be arsed to debate it with fans that think they know it all Lee started left. There was no swapping he was left and Bannan was centre. We went 1-0 down then they swapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 minute ago, RocketOwl said: So why did Carlos play Lee on the left of midfield today? And why did he change Lee back after 28 minutes? I don't profess to know, I'm merely making the point that you don't either and the person best placed to judge what was happening (CC) saw fit to make a change. I trust his judgement over yours is my ultimate point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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