Miffed Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I wonder, had we actually gone on and scored a winner against Sunderland, like we should have, would we looking at things a lot differently? Would that have been considered a much better start? I know it's the old 'if my auntie had balls...' but a decent 2nd half performance against one of the favourites to go up followed by 4 points away (which should be the minimum expectation for a team going up) from home wouldn't have been too shabby. Maybe we would have been better drawing against Fulham and beating Burton then fans might be seeing things differently still? Its these small margins that can make such a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTacoSWFC Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) We could easily go around in circles... fans say we should be winning games regardless.. Yes I also think small margins in games so far have cost us results, a lot blaming Carlos but how many clear cut chances have been squandered by the strike force, cleared off the line or denied by the officials? Edited August 28, 2017 by MrTacoSWFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Problem is that some on here will only ever judge Carlos on his last result. Wins = He is great. Loses or draws = Carlos out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: Problem is that some on here will only ever judge Carlos on his last result. Wins = He is great. Loses or draws = Carlos out. Think most people are judging him on two things. His negative tactics and results over last ten games. He can get away with the tactics when pinching wins - trouble is the last 10 games have seen 2 wins. That's why fans are rightly not happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, Miffed said: I wonder, had we actually gone on and scored a winner against Sunderland, like we should have, would we looking at things a lot differently? Would that have been considered a much better start? I know it's the old 'if my auntie had balls...' but a decent 2nd half performance against one of the favourites to go up followed by 4 points away (which should be the minimum expectation for a team going up) from home wouldn't have been too shabby. Maybe we would have been better drawing against Fulham and beating Burton then fans might be seeing things differently still? Its these small margins that can make such a difference Its the style and quality of performances allied to consistent lack of entertainment rather than an extra goal or point here and there that is the issue with many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: Problem is that some on here will only ever judge Carlos on his last result. Wins = He is great. Loses or draws = Carlos out. Some maybe but most; no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, RichSheffWeds said: Think most people are judging him on two things. His negative tactics and results over last ten games. He can get away with the tactics when pinching wins - trouble is the last 10 games have seen 2 wins. That's why fans are rightly not happy. unfair I think to combine the seasons and say 2 in 10. Let's give him 10 games this season and see if he is still only got 2 wins. If he has then its time to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 20 minutes ago, Miffed said: I wonder, had we actually gone on and scored a winner against Sunderland, like we should have, would we looking at things a lot differently? Would that have been considered a much better start? I know it's the old 'if my auntie had balls...' but a decent 2nd half performance against one of the favourites to go up followed by 4 points away (which should be the minimum expectation for a team going up) from home wouldn't have been too shabby. Maybe we would have been better drawing against Fulham and beating Burton then fans might be seeing things differently still? Its these small margins that can make such a difference equally for balance our opponents in all games have also missed good chances... swings and roundabouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: unfair I think to combine the seasons and say 2 in 10. Let's give him 10 games this season and see if he is still only got 2 wins. If he has then its time to go. Dont get your logic. 10 games over the end of last season and the start of the current one is not ok to compare but 10 games this season that you are using is????? We have a stable squad that should have been firing on all cylinders against our first 5 opponents this season. Another 5 games for CC will see our season in tatters. Something has to change quickly if our season is not going to be over. Can't see it being CC's crazy tactics. That's the reason he needs to go now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 31 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: Problem is that some on here will only ever judge Carlos on his last result. Wins = He is great. Loses or draws = Carlos out. I fully expect the traffic to die down about a week after the pigs match, job done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsidney Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 24 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: unfair I think to combine the seasons and say 2 in 10. Let's give him 10 games this season and see if he is still only got 2 wins. If he has then its time to go. Why is it. It's not like he's had to bed in a new team and he's still deploying the god awful tactics that cost us the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, RichSheffWeds said: Dont get your logic. 10 games over the end of last season and the start of the current one is not ok to compare but 10 games this season that you are using is????? We have a stable squad that should have been firing on all cylinders against our first 5 opponents this season. Another 5 games for CC will see our season in tatters. Something has to change quickly if our season is not going to be over. Can't see it being CC's crazy tactics. That's the reason he needs to go now. Stats are interesting. Everyone keeps using 2 wins in 10, but doesn't mention it's 8 wins in 16? Just conveniently using the last 3 results last season, which included a fully rested side against Fulham. Lets just use this seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, WhiteOwl91 said: Stats are interesting. Everyone keeps using 2 wins in 10, but doesn't mention it's 8 wins in 16? Just conveniently using the last 3 results last season, which included a fully rested side against Fulham. Lets just use this seasons. Saves my writing a reply. And a two legged playoff where you can draw a game and it still be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 We've only played 5 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, WhiteOwl91 said: Stats are interesting. Everyone keeps using 2 wins in 10, but doesn't mention it's 8 wins in 16? Just conveniently using the last 3 results last season, which included a fully rested side against Fulham. Lets just use this seasons. The point being made is that recent form and tactics have been dire. No other way of dressing it up. It comes down to whether you think CC can turn it around. I think he can't and the idea of automatic promotion is not going to be even a remote possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 15 minutes ago, WhiteOwl91 said: Stats are interesting. Everyone keeps using 2 wins in 10, but doesn't mention it's 8 wins in 16? Just conveniently using the last 3 results last season, which included a fully rested side against Fulham. Lets just use this seasons. 8 wins in 16 won't get you promoted any more than 2 in 10 will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 39 minutes ago, modboy said: equally for balance our opponents in all games have also missed good chances... swings and roundabouts Exactly this...if we'd have conceded just 1 more goal at Fulham we'd be out of the relegation zone on goal difference only 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Ian said: 8 wins in 16 won't get you promoted any more than 2 in 10 will Brutal analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando17 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 55 minutes ago, RichSheffWeds said: Think most people are judging him on two things. His negative tactics and results over last ten games. He can get away with the tactics when pinching wins - trouble is the last 10 games have seen 2 wins. That's why fans are rightly not happy. got it in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGRUSS Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ian said: 8 wins in 16 won't get you promoted any more than 2 in 10 will It will if you draw the other 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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