Owlsend Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Okay where do I start Carlos has been a our manager for three seasons at the club there is no doubting that the club has grown since he's been in charge. We all know this is owlstalk and we all have our disagreements and In very rare occasions we actually agree . 1 )is it the manager and is signings of the last three seasons? 2)is there a corruption in the camp with the players 3)as Carlos lost the dressing room 4)is it just bad luck and we've not found our feet yet we probably could go on all day suggesting wondering what is wrong clearly there is a lot of talented players there so why isn't coming together on the field feel free to leave a comment what you feel your idea behind the problem let's see for a change if fellow owlstalk can get together and work it out and agree because of the fans can't get together how can the team...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s110wl Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 We haven't even played 5 league games yet... win on Saturday and we're not far off auto form. Youve decided there is a huge problem - can't we just wait and see how things pan out over the next 6 games? Who knows, if we got behind the team, maybe we could go on a nice run (as we have numerous times throughout the last two seasons...) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, s110wl said: we're not far off auto form On the one hand it's not ok to judge after 4 games, but on the other auto-form can be determined after just 5? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlsend Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, s110wl said: We haven't even played 5 league games yet... win on Saturday and we're not far off auto form. Youve decided there is a huge problem - can't we just wait and see how things pan out over the next 6 games? Who knows, if we got behind the team, maybe we could go on a nice run (as we have numerous times throughout the last two seasons...) I agree we haven't played five league games this season but it's not stemming back to just this season is it stemming back over the last season and when it comes to big occasions like the play-off semi-final people would say negative tactics as it changed this season so far people and see Carlos has lost the dressing room has he? People would say multi million pound players and they cannot perform as a team is that down to the manager........ that's why I put over the last three seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Lucas Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Jesus Chrlst there's a huge problem now I thought that was The Co Op that must have been a massive problem if this is huge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 The Burton game is a massive game for the club and CC. Lose that and the pressure will really be on CC imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Lucas Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 minute ago, WalthamOwl said: The Burton game is a massive game for the club and CC. Lose that and the pressure will really be on CC imo. According to most the pressures been on for some years lay off the guy he might change things up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlsend Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Is anyone read post or just comment where in the entire post and I put there is a huge problem I have asked the fans to come together and see if you can work out if there is a problem we all overreact are we overreacting for a reason or just for the sake of it or is the problem the fans over reacting why I put Owlstalkers get together and agree for once because if the fans can't work it out neither can the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Carlos has clearly been out shagging a lot of owlstalk posters wives, girlfriends and partners 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) I heard something second hand (a friend spoke with a player, and the friend told me). I've no reason to doubt the friend or the player, and from what I was told there is some tension within the squad with a few unhappy people. Before anyone asks I am not going to name the player. Don't know if true or not, but from what we see on the pitch it doesn't surprise me. Edited August 23, 2017 by i used to be sc_owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tudders Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 34 minutes ago, TheEnd1976 said: Okay where do I start Carlos has been a our manager for three seasons at the club there is no doubting that the club has grown since he's been in charge. We all know this is owlstalk and we all have our disagreements and In very rare occasions we actually agree . 1 )is it the manager and is signings of the last three seasons? 2)is there a corruption in the camp with the players 3)as Carlos lost the dressing room 4)is it just bad luck and we've not found our feet yet we probably could go on all day suggesting wondering what is wrong clearly there is a lot of talented players there so why isn't coming together on the field feel free to leave a comment what you feel your idea behind the problem let's see for a change if fellow owlstalk can get together and work it out and agree because of the fans can't get together how can the team...... We lose a game in some tin pot game last night and the world is falling in! We beat Fulham away in our last meaningful outing for Gods sake. We win on Saturday and we are in the top 6 or level on points! Everyone will be happy then!! In almost 40 years of watching Wednesday Ive never known such fickle supporters as the ones of today. Is it that "instant results" impatient society that the world hasn't become which is to blame? Unfortunately I think so. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendoddsdadsdogsdead Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Expectation breeds over reaction. There is no doubt we have a very talented squad, however for the past 3 seasons our start has been less than stellar. There are comparables this season with the previous 2, in that transfer business is slow and injuries to key players have meant a chopping and changing of personnel leading to disjointed performances. A lot of vitriol has been levelled at Carlos, and whilst he picks the team and tactics, the players need to show a bit of grit and determination as well. All of us on here have opinions in respect of tactics and personnel, but I hope I have the same opinion as many, in that, believe in the process, believe that the players will start to perform better, and believe that we are still playing catch up to some of the other clubs in this division, despite many supporters demanding success, they fail to appreciate the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, i used to be sc_owl said: I heard something second hand (a friend spoke with a player, and the friend told me). I've no reason to doubt the friend or the player, and from what I was told there is some tension within the squad with a few unhappy people. Before anyone asks I am not going to name the player. Don't know if true or not, but from what we see on the pitch it doesn't surprise me. If you have large group of people in a closed atmosphere there will always be some tension. Look at Owlstalk as a prime example! It's whether that tense energy can be covered to positive results for the whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 36 minutes ago, s110wl said: We haven't even played 5 league games yet... win on Saturday and we're not far off auto form. Youve decided there is a huge problem - can't we just wait and see how things pan out over the next 6 games? Who knows, if we got behind the team, maybe we could go on a nice run (as we have numerous times throughout the last two seasons...) 8 points from 5 games gives you 74 points over the course of a season. That's about 20 points off autos, or another 25% of points needed In other words, quite a way off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 42 minutes ago, TheEnd1976 said: Okay where do I start Carlos has been a our manager for three seasons at the club there is no doubting that the club has grown since he's been in charge. We all know this is owlstalk and we all have our disagreements and In very rare occasions we actually agree . 1 )is it the manager and is signings of the last three seasons? 2)is there a corruption in the camp with the players 3)as Carlos lost the dressing room 4)is it just bad luck and we've not found our feet yet we probably could go on all day suggesting wondering what is wrong clearly there is a lot of talented players there so why isn't coming together on the field feel free to leave a comment what you feel your idea behind the problem let's see for a change if fellow owlstalk can get together and work it out and agree because of the fans can't get together how can the team...... Some fans not happy unless creating problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronowl66 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Maybe were just having a bad start like some other teams ..... I know that's a wild and ridiculous theory but you never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Could it be because there actually isn't one? Just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Fernando Forestieri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrbuk Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 46 minutes ago, TheEnd1976 said: 1 )is it the manager and is signings of the last three seasons? 2)is there a corruption in the camp with the players 3)as Carlos lost the dressing room 4)is it just bad luck and we've not found our feet yet 5) is it just your "h" key that's temperamental? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronowl66 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Just now, bigrbuk said: 5) is it just your "h" key that's temperamental? Its the corruption theory that really tickled me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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