Blatter Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 51 minutes ago, WorrallOwl17 said: If Wallace fits into a diamond, so does Boyd. Simple Think they are interchangeable in 4-4-2 or diamond. Carlos just preferered Wallace after Preston. Maybe making the point you don't just come to a new club and stroll into the starting 11 regardless of performance levels. Carlos DEFENDING is only Star's interpretation of his answer to a question. Think its ironic how so many criticise Carlos for his inflexible tactics, only to round on him when he makes changes in formation. Too much chopping and changing, Need settled team, Doesn't know his best team, etc etc. League season is 3 games old, judge him after 10 and after the transfer window closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel The Tree Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 hour ago, slinger208b said: Maybe that's because someone asked him about it so his answer is then a defence... No, the headline is out of context The question was raised and answered by way of an explanation That Carlos should then need to 'defend' an unpopular decision is purely down to Howson's (or his editor's) negative spin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Eightace said: Do we need players who played 36 times in the prem last season? When you have players like Boyd Abdi and Rhodes you build a team around them. We didn't need any of those 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Any Wednesday fan (except you it would seem) would have jumped at the chance of signing those 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love Sturrock Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Carlos started almost exactly the same team for the Huddersfield home semi as he did a year earlier at Wembley. I can't wait until we sneak into the play-offs next May and play the same team in the play-offs for three seasons running, despite spending tens of millions on fees and wages in the meantime. The man does not know how to integrate new signings into his team. Yet another reason why we're doomed to never get promotion under his stewardship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 hour ago, WorrallOwl17 said: If Wallace fits into a diamond, so does Boyd. Simple This. I would have thought, given Boyd is more experienced playing more central than Wallace over their careers, that Boyd would actually be a better choice than Wallace in the diamond system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 its all a bit depressing isn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorrallOwl17 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just now, modboy said: its all a bit depressing isn't it Depressing, a little. Strange, a whole lot more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Reachs left peg Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 For me Carlos is far to cautious I think most of the time he sets up for a draw dropping a player with premiership experience after one game is very odd but we all know Carlos has his favourites and is afraid to drop them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Blatter said: Think they are interchangeable in 4-4-2 or diamond. Carlos just preferered Wallace after Preston. Maybe making the point you don't just come to a new club and stroll into the starting 11 regardless of performance levels. Carlos DEFENDING is only Star's interpretation of his answer to a question. Think its ironic how so many criticise Carlos for his inflexible tactics, only to round on him when he makes changes in formation. Too much chopping and changing, Need settled team, Doesn't know his best team, etc etc. League season is 3 games old, judge him after 10 and after the transfer window closes. That cant be right - as half of our fanbase will scream at you,,, WE HAVE NO PLAN B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD2OWL Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 3 hours ago, sheriwozgod said: "We play 4 - 4 - 2"......................and there is the crux of the problem. This, 4-4-2 is so 1990s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 25 minutes ago, modboy said: its all a bit depressing isn't it And f***in laughable.......................he wants us to believe that a professional footballer on 20 or 30 bags of sand a WEEK cant make subtle adjustments to his game to adapt to a SLIGHTLY different sytem......................absolute cobblers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash77 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 2 hours ago, WorrallOwl17 said: How doesn't Boyd fit into a diamond system though if Wallace does? If Wallace was playing one of the 'wide' positions of the diamond then surely a more energetic, mobile player in Boyd can play it just as effectively? Said the same in the boyd thread, If anything the diamond puts more onus on energy as more area is covered. At least give him a chance there before writting him off. Writting ff off behind front 2 when abdi can barely train makes no sense either, finding cc's logic increasingly strange. Might be best if he shuts up, stops overthinking things or creating barriers, keep it simple, play the best players and apply common sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 51 minutes ago, BIG D said: Any Wednesday fan (except you it would seem) would have jumped at the chance of signing those 3. No pal, you are under estimating the Wednesday fans. Most are not as daft as you. The ones that actually have a clue about football knew these were not what we needed at the time. I'm not saying they wouldn't be good for someone but just didn't fit our requirements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, torres said: No pal, you are under estimating the Wednesday fans. Most are not as daft as you. The ones that actually have a clue about football knew these were not what we needed at the time. I'm not saying they wouldn't be good for someone but just didn't fit our requirements That's really odd then (pal) because Scram who's probably forgotten more than you will ever know about the game rates Abdi (on his time at Watford) as a top player. It would appear reading this site that most Wednesdayites will judge a player on their last appearance. Hunt is sh ite Palmer is sh ite Loovens is sh ite Pudil is sh ite Reach is sh ite Wallace is sh ite Jones is sh ite Bannan is sh ite Rhodes is sh ite Boyd is sh ite Hooper is sh ite etc etc etc Edited August 18, 2017 by BIG D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, BIG D said: That's really odd then (pal) because Scram who's probably forgotten more than you will ever know about the game rates Abdi (on his time at Watford) as a top player. It would appear reading this site that most Wednesdayites will judge a player on their last appearance. Hunt is sh ite Palmer is sh ite Loovens is sh ite Pudil is sh ite Reach is sh ite Wallace is sh ite Jones is sh ite Bannan is sh ite Rhodes is sh ite Boyd is sh ite Hooper is sh ite etc etc etc Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 It's hillarious isn't it? All the cr@p and more that we've had to read over the last couple of years. The 'send Hooper back tonight thread' was a particular favourite. Tapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osowl Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 So in Carlos' mind we bought a starting prem midfielder to play for the mighty swfc in a part time role because after 3 weeks he's sure the guy can't play in a diamond? W T F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightace Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I'm pretty sure Boyd is a good player. He was last year. So why he doesn't fit into our team puzzles me. It's like the situation with mcgeady. Wasn't up to speed but couldn't get up to speed because he wasn't up to speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) Defends himself. ... Gordon Bennett! He's the manager, he picks the team. There is no story. We might debate selection on here. I might discuss it on the phone to my friends or in the club. That's always happened. But this microscopic detailing. There will be people now, hacks included, poring over his every word in that interview now looking to make another angle, another story. Pah! Edited August 18, 2017 by Lord Snooty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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