AtkinsonsBarmyArmy Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Royal_D said: 5 pages on the strength of Bookies odds means square root of F all Not just bookies Royal... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: I wasn't aware that he'd refused to play these last two games... You don't know what happened in training. Don't think anyone's suggesting he's refused to play. Rather he's been dropped as a result of his behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 It's a yes from me, they have the cash to pay us well for him and he's become a distraction we don't need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wonder Spaniel Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I'll just be glad when he comes off the bench at The Cottage and scores the winner on Saturday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Just now, AtkinsonsBarmyArmy said: Not just bookies Royal... What have I missed ? Where's the goss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Neg Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: This situation isn't like last season, though, when he refused to play. He's not played because he was disciplined. That was the club's decision, not his. For all we know Winnall might have given him some lip, and he's reacted. In this country it's the retaliator who gets punished, not the original offender. Still more likely to be two potential attempts to force a move, refuse to play, upset the club, savage your own player on the training ground. Funny that he's done it at almost the same time both years. Either he or his agent doesn't want him to be at Wednesday. Get him off and get some decent defenders in I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I despair. We have some experts thinking it's that easy. Sell someone and then pluck 3 players and assume they will sign. Easy this management lark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlinmad Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Forget his attitude look at his ability. He over produced in his first season with us and since then has been playing at his normal level. A good player but not a great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Not much in it if your comparing Knockaert and FF ... much of a muchness but Knock is maybe more consistent don't think either are Prem quality if am honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 hour ago, TheEnchanter said: Don't think anyone's suggesting he's refused to play. Rather he's been dropped as a result of his behaviour. Before this happened, and indeed before Winnall ever came here, Barnsley fans told me that he is a difficult character. Mardy and temperamental. We don't know what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 He's the best player we've had since the 90's. We'd be nuts to sell him. As Grandad has said, id rather we get a new manager who can handle him properly. Do you think someone like Warnock would have hung him out to dry like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: Before this happened, and indeed before Winnall ever came here, Barnsley fans told me that he is a difficult character. Mardy and temperamental. We don't know what happened. What's Winnall got to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtkinsonsBarmyArmy Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Royal_D said: What have I missed ? Where's the goss Youv'e missed everything. Seek and ye shall find. Agents always get there way. There on commision. Hope i'm completely wrong. Or should i say, hope FF's friend is. But dont think he will be a owl by end of august. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Costello 77 said: Ok then..why hasn't he played the last two games then? He's been disciplined by the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 minute ago, owls maniac said: He's the best player we've had since the 90's. We'd be nuts to sell him. As Grandad has said, id rather we get a new manager who can handle him properly. Do you think someone like Warnock would have hung him out to dry like this? Do you think Warnock would have accepted an apology from a player who refused to play for the club ??? Because I don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Costello 77 said: What's Winnall got to do with it? Because it's the altercation with Winnall on the training pitch which led to all this. Winnall had altercations with players at Oakwell too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Athelwulf said: Before this happened, and indeed before Winnall ever came here, Barnsley fans told me that he is a difficult character. Mardy and temperamental. We don't know what happened. That just seems like a completely irrelevant piece of information though. It's completely identical to stating that because Forestieri dived once that he dived again or dives every time. Plus I've known many mardy and temperamental people, it's amazing who seems to have that character defect. It's not like all the players are robots. David Jones might have anxiety, Pudil might have anger issues, Dave might have hysteria. They're all human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Just now, Athelwulf said: He's been disciplined by the club. Has he? Bloody hell, when did that happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I may have missed this elsewhere but didn't his official apology appear briefly on the OS before being taken down? Ultimately it's just too much drama for all concerned, great player but that special connection he had with fans can never fully be restored. Let's cash in and use those funds wisely, which ironically is the part I'd worry about most... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Athelwulf said: Because it's the altercation with Winnall on the training pitch which led to all this. Winnall had altercations with players at Oakwell too. He's a bad lad that Winnall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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