Jowl Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Gotta be our formation. Suits all our strikers and all our centre midfielders. We don't have real wingers so it allows us to use our full backs better too. we looked better in both home games with it by a mile too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Cosby Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Totally agree. Particularly when our fullbacks play as well as they did tonight, thought Reach inparticular was excellent. But I don't expect Carlos to do it anytime soon from the off. We need to be a goal down and 45mins in for us to actually commit men forward. I think he's too attached to his 442 comfort blanket; ultimately I think it'll be his downfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Baggins Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I think we need to look at 3 at the back. Push Hunt and Reach to wing backs with a midfield 3 and 2 up top. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatfordOwl Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 It sets us up to be more on the front foot at the start of games and out manouvere a central midfield pairing. We got involved in the game a hell of a lot more when reverting to it. Have to stop this stupid habit of getting off to a slow start in games before reacting to it or we are going to have a mountain to climb to get anywhere near the top 6 this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSWFC Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, GHS said: I think we need to look at 3 at the back. Push Hunt and Reach to wing backs with a midfield 3 and 2 up top. We currently have 1 fit center back, and you want us to play 3 at the back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Baggins Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 minute ago, JackSWFC said: We currently have 1 fit center back, and you want us to play 3 at the back. Did you go tonight? Pudil had a great game and would be fine at the left side with new lad to right and Lee's to middle or preferable Hutch in middle with Lees to right. Plus Loovens as back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueOwl Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) It would be a shame if we finally switch to 4-3-3 and we sell Nando. Edited August 16, 2017 by TrueOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 It works well hit playing three slow strikers as we did makes it less effective. With FF back he would be perfect on left and Mathias could find a place and it's time Joao was given a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KivoOwl Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 It's not really 4-3-3 - I'd say it was 4-4-2 with a midfield diamond. It suits us because of our paucity of wingers, and if Hunt and Reach can play like they did tonight we're onto a winner We'd need a top new player at the base of the diamond though - Hutch cant be relied on and Jones aint good enough. If the Forestieri rift can be healed, he'd be perfect for that number 10 role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSWFC Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, GHS said: Did you go tonight? Pudil had a great game and would be fine at the left side with new lad to right and Lee's to middle or preferable Hutch in middle with Lees to right. Plus Loovens as back up. Yes, fair play to Pudil, he had a good game tonight. He played there a fair bit pre season and looked bad though in my opinion. I suppose pre season doesn't really mean much performance wise. Okay, I take it back... You want us to play 3 at the back, and we currently have 2 fit center backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Baggins Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, JackSWFC said: Yes, fair play to Pudil, he had a good game tonight. He played there a fair bit pre season and looked bad though in my opinion. I suppose pre season doesn't really mean much performance wise. Okay, I take it back... You want us to play 3 at the back, and we currently have 2 fit center backs. And a new lad. Keep the faith dude. You know it makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSWFC Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Step forward Jose Semedo. Nah, I'm sure we will get a top guy in before the window closes, one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueOwl Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, KivoOwl said: It's not really 4-3-3 - I'd say it was 4-4-2 with a midfield diamond. It suits us because of our paucity of wingers, and if Hunt and Reach can play like they did tonight we're onto a winner We'd need a top new player at the base of the diamond though - Hutch cant be relied on and Jones aint good enough. If the Forestieri rift can be healed, he'd be perfect for that number 10 role. Carlos doesn't believe he can play no. 10 apparently. He should be given a chance there imo unless we play a traditional wide attacking 4-3-3 where he would be incredible wide forward. Edited August 16, 2017 by TrueOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanningtonowl Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 When Hutch Is fit he'll go straight back in to his sweeper role. The difference with the last couple of games is the fact Hutch had to go off. Jones plays further forward and allows Bannon to get forward and play a more attacking role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickledegghiderman Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Foristieri should have started in front of abdi to who clearly isnt fit enough yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Hopefully Carlos has seen the light at last. 433 suits so many more of players than 442. Even though it's not really a conventional 433. We're certainly far more attack minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 2 hours ago, stanningtonowl said: When Hutch Is fit he'll go straight back in to his sweeper role. The difference with the last couple of games is the fact Hutch had to go off. Jones plays further forward and allows Bannon to get forward and play a more attacking role. Agree with this. Our midfield were significantly higher up tonight, and Jones-Bannan link well. I really hope hope we see very little of Hutch in CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Before we get carried away about our "new formations" v QPR and Sunderland, lets not forget its two home draws, coming from behind, against two sides not expected to be in contention. I agree the 433 second half tonight looked hugely promising, but some of the genuinely balanced 442 performances did so well for us in the second half of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Before we get carried away about our "new formations" v QPR and Sunderland, lets not forget its two home draws, coming from behind, against two sides not expected to be in contention. I agree the 433 second half tonight looked hugely promising, but some of the genuinely balanced 442 performances did so well for us in the second half of last season. Let me add though.... If Reach plays LB, and can perform like tonight regularly, then yes I think 433 could be very effective. I don't see the same likelihood of success with Pudil or Fox at LB. Hunt down the right is suitable too, but not at the same level as Reach tonight. Wow! Edited August 17, 2017 by Holmowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 3 hours ago, TrueOwl said: Carlos doesn't believe he can play no. 10 apparently. He should be given a chance there imo unless we play a traditional wide attacking 4-3-3 where he would be incredible wide forward. That's his best role for me. (wide of the 3 pronged attack) I don't think he's as good as Hooper as the deep lying player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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