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Just now, RichieB said:

 

I feel exactly the same. 

Sad isn't it, 

 

I'm completely just not fussed about him one way or another.

 

First time I watched him, couldn't believe what I was seeing, he was unbelievable. 

 

Now I'm just meh, no anger, no panic that he might be leaving. Nothing.

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1 minute ago, asteener1867 said:

He wasn't going to...but a couple of posters off here took him ...I think lol

,yer on fine form tonight mate lol

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1 minute ago, asteener1867 said:

Yea he apologised..We accepted...Like I said before, until we know the facts, we can only go on supposition.

Its Occams razor then isn't it?..The simplest answer is probably the correct one.

The same thing happened during the transfer window last year...second game into the season................Oops i done it again?

So irrespective of using words to get around a swear filter, you look at the story as you get it., and stuff like "Yea but what about Reach, Rhodes or f.ookin' Ronaldo don't make a happorth of difference to the story we have.

Why on eartyh would Carvalhal, a manager under pressure cut his nose off to spite his face by dropping our best player unless something had happened?

I won't be mithered if Forestieri plays next week and the weeks after that...I won't be simpering over him, I will simply expect him to do what a lot of fans pay a lot of money for...

 

 

...............HIS BLOODY JOB!

 

Unless mistaken nobody absolutely nobody knows what went on - we assume FF was the main culprit as Winall was picked but to my knowledge he hasn't asked for a transfer and we just don't know. Carlos management of him lately zero credit.

 

Hes been abused on here for everything going including having the cheek to visit Watford shopping Jesus Christ. I don't expect anybody to simper over him neither will he he knows the scoreby now at S6.

 

Hes not remotely treated fairly he's just a soft target God knows what would happen if he jumped into the crowd doing karate kicks would Carlos stand by him would the fans? good old Fergie he could see what was best for his team . Our fans can't but they are entitled to their opinions however repetitively negative. End of for me now might come back in a couple of f.oooookin months.

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Does cc have man management issues?

Why is it the more talented players seem to either underachieve, become disillusioned or not get a game?

 

Ff, abdi, mcgeady, mcmanaman, rhodes etc. He seems to only like players that can run about alot tho not very fast ones lol

Easy option is to leave good players out or sell them for peanuts like danny wilson did if you cant handle them etc, but if they had respect for their manager maybe stuff like this wouldnt happen in 1st place. (Like with big ron)

 

Either that or ff would cause issues anywhere but who knows for sure whats going on outside the club

 

 

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Cash in now. The downside of losing him will be more than outweighed by the couple of CBs and winger that we could replace him with for the money we get for him. 

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To me the damage was done last season after the Norwich game, I said back then, whatever the outcome, it would split the fanbase, some would forgive and forget and others would not. I don't think FF was anywhere near the standards what he produced in his first season, but there was the occasional moment of brilliance. I think this latest episode (if true) will be the ending of him here, if that's the case we sell and move on.

 

A replacement I would have suggested would be the Dutch lad who used to play for QPR, Tjaronn Chery, but I should think he's on mega bucks in China...

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This is different to the shameful antics regarding Norwich last season.

 

Training ground fights happen all the time - literally i bet a day doesn't pass during the season where there isn't a scrap between team mates somewhere throughout the professional clubs

 

It's how it's handled and dealt with that's key

 

He doesn't have to engineer a move by some phoney training ground stunt - he literally just has to ask for a move

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1 minute ago, Copthorneowl said:

 

Unless mistaken nobody absolutely nobody knows what went on - we assume FF was the main culprit as Winall was picked but to my knowledge he hasn't asked for a transfer and we just don't know. Carlos management of him lately zero credit.

 

Hes been abused on here for everything going including having the cheek to visit Watford shopping Jesus Christ. I don't expect anybody to simper over him neither will he he knows the scoreby now at S6.

 

Hes not remotely treated fairly he's just a soft target God knows what would happen if he jumped into the crowd doing karate kicks would Carlos stand by him would the fans? good old Fergie he could see what was best for his team . Our fans can't but they are entitled to their opinions however repetitively negative. End of for me now might come back in a couple of f.oooookin months.

I sort of admire your loyalty.

He's looking like a busted flush.

I suspect he'll be trouble wherever he goes.

It seems like we've had the best of him.

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2 minutes ago, Copthorneowl said:

 

Unless mistaken nobody absolutely nobody knows what went on - we assume FF was the main culprit as Winall was picked but to my knowledge he hasn't asked for a transfer and we just don't know. Carlos management of him lately zero credit.

 

Hes been abused on here for everything going including having the cheek to visit Watford shopping Jesus Christ. I don't expect anybody to simper over him neither will he he knows the scoreby now at S6.

 

Hes not remotely treated fairly he's just a soft target God knows what would happen if he jumped into the crowd doing karate kicks would Carlos stand by him would the fans? good old Fergie he could see what was best for his team . Our fans can't but they are entitled to their opinions however repetitively negative. End of for me now might come back in a couple of f.oooookin months.

For every tweet FF gets slated by..There are a hundred posts on here slagging Reach Nuhiu, Hunt Pudil etc...Sadly it comes with the territory, and a hefty wage packet.

I haven't slagged him off, Ive gone on the information given, and what I glean from it.

Its assumption, not abuse, 

If others are abusive..take it up with them mate

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Just now, scram said:

This is different to the shameful antics regarding Norwich last season.

 

Training ground fights happen all the time - literally i bet a day doesn't pass during the season where there isn't a scrap between team mates somewhere throughout the professional clubs

 

It's how it's handled and dealt with that's key

 

He doesn't have to engineer a move by some phoney training ground stunt - he literally just has to ask for a move

 

 

but that doesn't conform to the anti FF brigade on here Scram

 

 

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8 minutes ago, dan1980 said:

If he was going i wouldnt of thought he would even turn up to watch us today

Probably would because they trying to show face and the reason they're probably having a laugh and a joke it's because of Carlos methods  and style of play and if you remember rightly Megason did the exact same with Antonio and JJ before they  both departed the club 

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2 minutes ago, Ash77 said:

Does cc have man management issues?

Why is it the more talented players seem to either underachieve, become disillusioned or not get a game?

 

Ff, abdi, mcgeady, mcmanaman, rhodes etc. He seems to only like players that can run about alot tho not very fast ones lol

Easy option is to leave good players out or sell them for peanuts like danny wilson did if you cant handle them etc, but if they had respect for their manager maybe stuff like this wouldnt happen in 1st place. (Like with big ron)

 

Either that or ff would cause issues anywhere but who knows for sure whats going on outside the club

 

 

 

Exactly.
Can't have those Fancy Dans believing that they're good players now.
Give me a team full of Andy Booths every day...

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7 minutes ago, TheEnd1976 said:

That's your opinion...../Don't care believe what you want probably don't even go to the games

Season ticket holder mate just dint talk crap and start needless stuff

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2 hours ago, Royal_D said:

 

Any true fan wouldn't jump to the defence of a mercenary who refused to play for OUR club 

 

Grow up you silly little boy. I been watching Wednesday live for over 60 years and still do and it's 450 mile round trip what's you're commitment time you matured

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22 minutes ago, darra said:

Sorry who are the other 4. I'm guessing one is Mgughan who has a history of this sort of thing so the juries out as to whether he wont play or he's not being picked. Then again if he's not being picked I refer you to my first assumption.

Mcgeady

Mcmanman

Mcgugan

Abdi

 

Now FF.

 

But sure, not CC's fault, lol.

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1 minute ago, ANDY said:

 

 

but that doesn't conform to the anti FF brigade on here Scram

 

 

It conforms to the story we have.

I'm not anti FF...I hope he stays..even if he's in the wrong on this one...He's a good player.

On the other hand, there are some that are using this as a stick to further beat Carvalhal with...

As we don't know the full story, we can only go on what we deduce from it

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15 minutes ago, dan1980 said:

If he was going i wouldnt of thought he would even turn up to watch us today

You do realise they have to otherwise they are fined don't you ?  

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