Fibonacci91 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I think fans are more annoyed with management than players. I think we could have turned ourselves into serious promotion favorites by spending 10 mil on 2 full backs and a centre back. It screams out at you. Yet he hasnt moved on even one of these issues and hasnt addressed obvious problems in tactics from last year, like getting not enough out of wingers and having too much of a gap between midfield and attack. These things are really obvious yet haven't been dealt with. It is the obviousness of these problems that has led to fans being annoyed. He must have noticed these problems therefore he has to have chosen not to deal with them and hope us to be as effective as other teams that have improved. A bit strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Both. Which he keeps proving time and time again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneTheOwl Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 In reply to the title of your thread - both ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Prefer the term deluded. He said in his interview we will return to our normal football. What I saw against Preston was very reminiscent of what I saw last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Too stubborn to recognise his incompetence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I think he's more stubborn than anything to his and the team's detriment. He needs return to the attack minded and charismatic Carlos of his first season or else the writing is on the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almat Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Another vote for BOTH, sadly. He's turned into the sort of manager that, if he had just one bullet in his gun, he'd find some way of shooting himself in both feet... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Jesus - incompetent, top 6, 2 years running come on now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Very stubborn Edited August 7, 2017 by WalthamOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamK2292 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Both but more stubborn than incompetent. Has been that way for a while, and sadly he won't change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci91 Posted August 7, 2017 Author Share Posted August 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, Spookone said: Jesus - incompetent, top 6, 2 years running come on now Agreed. I dont think he is incompetent, certainly showed some competence in his first year and last year you could argue he pulled a Mourinho and got a team playing pretty badly enough results to make the play offs. Incredibly stubborn for me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Mmmm. Seems to be lots of newish posters arriving on here with negative views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwokenGiant Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 17 minutes ago, Fibonacci91 said: I think fans are more annoyed with management than players. I think we could have turned ourselves into serious promotion favorites by spending 10 mil on 2 full backs and a centre back. It screams out at you. Yet he hasnt moved on even one of these issues and hasnt addressed obvious problems in tactics from last year, like getting not enough out of wingers and having too much of a gap between midfield and attack. These things are really obvious yet haven't been dealt with. It is the obviousness of these problems that has led to fans being annoyed. He must have noticed these problems therefore he has to have chosen not to deal with them and hope us to be as effective as other teams that have improved. A bit strange. Unconciously competent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwokenGiant Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 If CC is deluded and incompetent then God only knows what some of the managers before him were? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robowl4life Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 1 minute ago, AwokenGiant said: If CC is deluded and incompetent then God only knows what some of the managers before him were? Irvine had coaching badges don't you know!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwokenGiant Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 1 minute ago, robowl4life said: Irvine had coaching badges don't you know!! Thats all he had - a complete fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoat Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Finlux_Cup said: Yeah, that bad we finished fourth!! So I presume 4th is good this season even if we don't go up? The squad finished 4th because depsite CC horrible negative setups the team is good enough to finish that high. If you made Tottenham play defensive they'd still finish high up, just not as high as they could. Get a positive manager in and this team will blow teams away and execute promotion. Edited August 7, 2017 by Redcoat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetherave Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 The only problem we have is we can't score goals. Shouldn't we be addressing questions and asking the likes of Rhodes, Fletcher, Hooper et al. All on more money a month than anyone posting on here is likely to see in a year. What's going on lads??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlawrenceofmadden Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 25 minutes ago, Spookone said: Jesus - incompetent, top 6, 2 years running come on now This, absolutely - on this basis every manager in any league who is not placed 1st or 2nd is incompetent. It's fortunate 'normal' jobs aren't based on this hypothesis else we'd be all out of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoat Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Compact football is what's going on. He does the compact gesture all day on the touchline. Players drifting out of position to create holes is what gets then ball going forward. Leeds has SIX men in the opposition box yesterday to score their second goal. They score goals because they make the player commitment. We DON'T. Edited August 7, 2017 by Redcoat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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