Ever the pessimist Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 39 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: To paraphrase Shakespeare, it looks like either Carlos or Forestieri, or both, must go. Bit of a stretch to call that paraphrasing: Hardly any of it is the same as the original line! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Bench him , we looked more of a team last season when he didn't play . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, ANDY said: simple solution Bench him. or leave him out completely let our proper strikers show that we don't need him, They do Andy. Time and time again. Our record with two proper strikers is so much better than with FF+1 that it makes me weep when Carlos yet again goes back to Fessi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almat Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, marconi said: Hirsty would have pinned FF to the dressing room wall by the throat. No player is bigger than the team. Sick of walking on eggs with so called star players. Sick of the negative approach to games we saw all too often last season. Only if Palmer hadn't got there first! Can you imagine how proper managers like Big Ron or Wilko would have deal with this? They certainly wouldn't have gone to the press, that's for sure. Edited August 6, 2017 by Almat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironman Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 There's something seriously wrong with this bunch of players and staff. They don't seem to be a tight knit group..and these incidents will only cause more division within the group surely. How are other players going to react to one player dictating the manager and throwing his toys out the pram every five minutes. Not good. Worrying times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_wells Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 minute ago, EXCALIBUR said: FF either plays where he is told to or he can leave. Clearly not though - was he playing where he was told at the weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 With big players comes big egos. Someone has to keep them (FF) in check while getting the best out of them. It's a tough job only a few are good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 minute ago, hugeowl said: Bench him , we looked more of a team last season when he didn't play . We did. Ideally we should sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, marconi said: Hirsty would have pinned FF to the dressing room wall by the throat. No player is bigger than the team. Sick of walking on eggs with so called star players. Sick of the negative approach to games we saw all too often last season. Unfortunately that was a different age when football was played by proper men. the modern players simply would not do that kind of thing. Too many pampered prima donnas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobbinTheDonkey Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 FF hasn't demanded to play up front. He said tracking back affects his attacking play, so he prefers to play up front. Read the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I used to hate it when blunts said stuff like 'another history lesson from the wendies' I now understand why they said it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_wells Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Kopparberg said: With big players comes big egos. Someone has to keep them (FF) in check while getting the best out of them. It's a tough job only a few are good at. Very true - can you imagine the grief Conte got/gets from the likes of Hazard, Costa, Fabregas and co? I'm sure this isn't a special case - just happens to be one that the manager has stupidly put into the public domain. Makes me wonder whether Carlos simply doesn't have the ability to manage these kind of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I think CC's words are being misinterpreted. CC says that he asked FF why he didn't play well in preseason and FF told him why. Nowhere in Howson's report does it say that FF demanded to play upfront. CC has sought FF's opinion, considered it and acted upon it that's all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_wells Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, DobbinTheDonkey said: FF hasn't demanded to play up front. He said tracking back affects his attacking play, so he prefers to play up front. Read the article. You're missing the bigger point. We know what he's like - if he doesn't play up front he'll get in a strop. He'll then not perform He'll then want a transfer It'll be a right mess. It already bloody is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasSWFC Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I seem to remember last season when Carlos played him on the Left we had huge problems because down that side due to Fernando not tracking back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Why say it now? After first game of the season. Why now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Are we going to bench or outcast every player in the squad that Carlos falls out with? Are we going to frustrate almost every player in the squad by either playing them out of position or not playing them at all or not allowing them to leave? This is becoming farcical. Players bought that don't suit how we play; players unhappy or frustrated at being played out of position or not being played at all, players wanting to quit football altogether, players on big wages not playing and unable to leave, players on big wages and in their thirties. Negativity and frustration among the players and fan base breeding from negative tactics, unbalanced set up and ditching of the stripes. Seriously Carlos and/or Chansiri need to take a hold of the situation or all these minor issues, negativity and frustration could escalate into something much more serious. We can't afford to outcast numerous players or let players run down big wages and contracts, we can't afford to continue all this negativity on and off the pitch. Something needs to be done, to sort it. We need a return to the more attacking approach or we need changes in players or the head coach before it turns into a crisis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Has CC done this intentionally knowing that FF is likely to strop now & hand in a transfer request, potentially giving CC what he wants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwwlowl Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I refer you to my OP of yesterday... Sell him on now before his resale value starts to dwindle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxOwl Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 If the tactics were right Forestieri would a perfectly good striker or LW, as he was in the first season. On another note, why is our star reporter Howson again looking to put out a bobbar-stirring, negative story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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