@owlstalk Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, bazapeps said: I still find it baffling that people label blame with Gary Monk Yep - it's just crackers Especially when the chairman himself has said himself that he takes full responsibility And we've had account after account of players not getting paid, rules getting broken, embargoes, the stopping of spending on the squad, point deductions etc etc Imagine knowing and seeing all that and then reducing it to 'Garry Monk's fault' Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazapeps Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Yep - it's just crackers Especially when the chairman himself has said himself that he takes full responsibility And we've had account after account of players not getting paid, rules getting broken, embargoes, the stopping of spending on the squad, point deductions etc etc Imagine knowing and seeing all that and then reducing it to 'Garry Monk's fault' There can’t have been a manager in our history that worked in more difficult conditions. Yet his points average across the season would have kept us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Yep - it's just crackers Especially when the chairman himself has said himself that he takes full responsibility And we've had account after account of players not getting paid, rules getting broken, embargoes, the stopping of spending on the squad, point deductions etc etc Imagine knowing and seeing all that and then reducing it to 'Garry Monk's fault' All that happened under Pulis as well so he is blameless as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Now we've got a whole crisis on our hands ffs I'm sure in some kind of signalling language it says.. CHANSIRI OUT !!! Edited July 22, 2021 by quinnssweetshop 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentwalker Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 54 minutes ago, bazapeps said: I still find it baffling that people label blame with Gary Monk Got to be something related. He took a team that had been drilled and coached by Bruce all preseason that by Christmas was only a couple of points off the top (all throughout this period Monk continued to say he had zero time with the players to imprint his own ideas due the volume of games). Then he had the Christmas break to get his ideas across and things nosedived spectacularly. should have gone at the end of that season and would have done if the fans were in the stadium. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gob_Bluth Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, agentwalker said: Got to be something related. He took a team that had been drilled and coached by Bruce all preseason that by Christmas was only a couple of points off the top (all throughout this period Monk continued to say he had zero time with the players to imprint his own ideas due the volume of games). Then he had the Christmas break to get his ideas across and things nosedived spectacularly. should have gone at the end of that season and would have done if the fans were in the stadium. Or he was doing a decent job until the Xmas, which is when DC starting weeing about with their wages and we've been in a nosedive ever since Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 I will be delighted to have hunt back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentwalker Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Gob_Bluth said: Or he was doing a decent job until the Xmas, which is when DC starting weeing about with their wages and we've been in a nosedive ever since and that's where the conversation ends bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazapeps Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, agentwalker said: Got to be something related. He took a team that had been drilled and coached by Bruce all preseason that by Christmas was only a couple of points off the top (all throughout this period Monk continued to say he had zero time with the players to imprint his own ideas due the volume of games). Then he had the Christmas break to get his ideas across and things nosedived spectacularly. should have gone at the end of that season and would have done if the fans were in the stadium. Christmas break? The fixture schedule around then was the opposite of a break. Steve Bruce left at the time that we’d failed to sort the stadium sale and at the time katrien said at this point the club knew they’d face penalties. IMO this is why Bruce wanted out. on the pitch we probably then over achieved in the first half of that season and in many ways that ended up going against Monk. I’m not saying Monk and the players are blameless but the wages issue then started in late November 2019, the rumours about club sanctions started then and off the field it became a circus with new stories every few days. It’s no coincidence our form on the pitch then nosed dived at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidstoneowl Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 if you think hard it is only the FEW THAT BOO but BOO can be loud from few who BOO never the same and some times referee cause players think we BOO him when game end THE FEW THAT BOO (may be they BOO - HOO) ?? !!! (CRY!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gob_Bluth Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, agentwalker said: and that's where the conversation ends bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley8 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 With friendlies I'd be more concerned about over all improvement but sometimes it needs patience but some times a kick up the bum to show concern it's not going to be good enough..... Depends on how it was bad..... As for the Monk crap.... He destroyed things he COULD control himself. Awful manager and lost the team. Chansiri is ultimately to blame and must go ASAP in part too for bringing in Jos, Monk and Pulis...... We are in a crisis and some how need to find a way to escape league 1 to try to get Chansiri to go! I'm very worried with how things are looking on the pitch and I'm not yet Impress by Moore but I want to see the new signings myself and once they have had a chance to bed in. With Moore it's just he seems a great guy but I feel he has been trying to play a style I want but without the quality to do it. That has held him back. Doesn't mean he won't be a great manager for us but not sure so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watto Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 hours ago, @owlstalk said: You could have avoided all this mess that you've created by quoting that post instead of mine then Now we've got a whole crisis on our hands ffs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 26 minutes ago, ashley8 said: As for the Monk crap.... He destroyed things he COULD control himself. Awful manager and lost the team. We got rid We got relegated Literally THAT simple mate Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazapeps Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 49 minutes ago, ashley8 said: With friendlies I'd be more concerned about over all improvement but sometimes it needs patience but some times a kick up the bum to show concern it's not going to be good enough..... Depends on how it was bad..... As for the Monk crap.... He destroyed things he COULD control himself. Awful manager and lost the team. Chansiri is ultimately to blame and must go ASAP in part too for bringing in Jos, Monk and Pulis...... We are in a crisis and some how need to find a way to escape league 1 to try to get Chansiri to go! I'm very worried with how things are looking on the pitch and I'm not yet Impress by Moore but I want to see the new signings myself and once they have had a chance to bed in. With Moore it's just he seems a great guy but I feel he has been trying to play a style I want but without the quality to do it. That has held him back. Doesn't mean he won't be a great manager for us but not sure so far Surely the fact that we’ve chopped and changed managers and nothing has got any better speaks volumes though? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 7 hours ago, @owlstalk said: WHAT THE..... eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley8 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 hours ago, bazapeps said: Surely the fact that we’ve chopped and changed managers and nothing has got any better speaks volumes though? Firstly you have to look at recruitment and WHO chose the players but..... after that look at those who came in... Jos, Monk and Pulis all shown else where they are not good enough! So they have some input. Let's be clear.... CHANSIRI is to blame over all yes but part of that failure is the manager's too.... Bruce doing well with Newcastle despite the issues up there... who else has gone on to do well after us! It's been a huge cluster f@@k but you can't only blame the manager's because it's not them alone but you certainly cannot ignore them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 6 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Yep - it's just crackers Especially when the chairman himself has said himself that he takes full responsibility And we've had account after account of players not getting paid, rules getting broken, embargoes, the stopping of spending on the squad, point deductions etc etc Imagine knowing and seeing all that and then reducing it to 'Garry Monk's fault' Oh for goodness sake, stop making mountains out of molehills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Watto said: Absolute rubbish , Wednesday fans are no worse than any others . I remember the disappointment that day , we'd took around 6k expectation were high after previous 2 seasons and the team just didn't compete , didn't just lose they were abject , I can understand the frustrating that day and it set the tone for where we are now I'm afraid. Yes yes yes. I remember thinking they won EVERY 50/50 all match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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