RyanSWFC Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) A nice new blue line will be added over the course of the season so we can compare how we're doing this season to the previous two under Carlos, which will hopefully show that further progress has been made compared to last season. What strikes me straight away is that in both of the last two seasons we had spells of poor form at the start of the season and then again around matches 32-38, and these spells probably cost us a shot at automatic promotion. I've brought the relegation line back because I don't want to tempt fate. For those interested, the straight lines represent the mean average points per game that were needed to achieve automatic promotion/reach playoffs/stay up over the last 5 seasons. For example last season Leeds finished 7th () on 75 points, therefore it would be possible to get into the playoffs with 75 points, so this points total along with the corresponding points totals for the preceding 4 seasons would be used to calculate the 5-season average points total needed to finish in the top 6. Edited August 1, 2017 by RyanSWFC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanSWFC Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) And considering our aim for this season is probably automatic promotion, here's a graph showing the progress of the four teams who achieved automatic promotion in the last 2 years. Particularly notable how Burnley had a pretty average first half of the season then took off after Christmas to win the title. So even if we don't start great (again), it shows that it can still be done! And Newcastle lost their first 2 games last season but still went on to win the title. Edited August 1, 2017 by RyanSWFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clud17 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 nice to see we are currently on course with a possible 0 points out of 0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 40 minutes ago, RyanSWFC said: And considering our aim for this season is probably automatic promotion, here's a graph showing the progress of the four teams who achieved automatic promotion in the last 2 years. Particularly notable how Burnley had a pretty average first half of the season then took off after Christmas to win the title. So even if we don't start great (again), it shows that it can still be done! And Newcastle lost their first 2 games last season but still went on to win the title. It took us half the season to get to 40 points last season, and 26 games the season before. 3 of the 4 promoted teams were 10 points above that at the half way stage. I'd say a good start is essential if you're to give yourself a fighting chance. Burnley the exception to the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel The Tree Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Nice one, RyanSWFC Last season's thread was quite therapeutic at times - providing a welcome refuge from all the madness It'd be nice if others didn't need to be 'referred' this time round Not sure about the 'avoiding the drop' line though Unless you think Dem Galacticos are sure to offer some light relief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Shows how important a good start is. Going on the graph we was so close last season with that late push from around 37/38 games. This season could see us get off to a solid start with having pretty much all the team together from last season. or we could still be adding to the squad late on in the transfer market disrupting the team and using excuses like. Not gelled yet and lack of pre season. Still learning the system. Being the optimistic I'm going for a solid start. I hope we land this former arsenal lad and get him settled in with out fuss. He will be a great addition. With pace and height WAWAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 1 hour ago, RyanSWFC said: A nice new blue line will be added over the course of the season so we can compare how we're doing this season to the previous two under Carlos, which will hopefully show that further progress has been made compared to last season. What strikes me straight away is that in both of the last two seasons we had spells of poor form at the start of the season and then again around matches 32-38, and these spells probably cost us a shot at automatic promotion. I've brought the relegation line back because I don't want to tempt fate. For those interested, the straight lines represent the mean average points per game that were needed to achieve automatic promotion/reach playoffs/stay up over the last 5 seasons. For example last season Leeds finished 7th () on 75 points, therefore it would be possible to get into the playoffs with 75 points, so this points total along with the corresponding points totals for the preceding 4 seasons would be used to calculate the 5-season average points total needed to finish in the top 6. great stuff, will be watching closely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, fpowl said: Shows how important a good start is. Going on the graph we was so close last season with that late push from around 37/38 games. This season could see us get off to a solid start with having pretty much all the team together from last season. or we could still be adding to the squad late on in the transfer market disrupting the team and using excuses like. Not gelled yet and lack of pre season. Still learning the system. Being the optimistic I'm going for a solid start. I hope we land this former arsenal lad and get him settled in with out fuss. He will be a great addition. With pace and height WAWAW whos the former arsenal lad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, debram said: whos the former arsenal lad? Djourou been released from Hamburg centre back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSWFC Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) looking forward to this thread's development. Love the optimism of the new 'autos graph' UTO! Edited August 1, 2017 by JackSWFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAnotherShez Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 3 hours ago, clud17 said: nice to see we are currently on course with a possible 0 points out of 0 Stay Calm We're Undefeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 1 hour ago, fpowl said: Djourou been released from Hamburg centre back cheers, hes the one that we dont want according to most post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Owl Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Great stuff Graph bloke... just imagine winning a few a few games in August and September then maintaining the form we displayed from October onwards over the last couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 52 minutes ago, debram said: cheers, hes the one that we dont want according to most post? He would walk into most teams in this division. And would certainly improve our starting 11 never mind squad. goes to ground easy and has a mistake In him but would be a very good signing for this league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 1 hour ago, OhForAnotherShez said: Stay Calm We're Undefeated. but still not scoring... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickinyorkshire Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Shows we were pretty much ahead on points over the 15/16 season. Let's hope for the same this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Daz Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Great stuff Ryan, but we're going for 98 points minimum this season, do you have a graph B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, RyanSWFC said: A nice new blue line will be added over the course of the season so we can compare how we're doing this season to the previous two under Carlos, which will hopefully show that further progress has been made compared to last season. What strikes me straight away is that in both of the last two seasons we had spells of poor form at the start of the season and then again around matches 32-38, and these spells probably cost us a shot at automatic promotion. I've brought the relegation line back because I don't want to tempt fate. For those interested, the straight lines represent the mean average points per game that were needed to achieve automatic promotion/reach playoffs/stay up over the last 5 seasons. For example last season Leeds finished 7th () on 75 points, therefore it would be possible to get into the playoffs with 75 points, so this points total along with the corresponding points totals for the preceding 4 seasons would be used to calculate the 5-season average points total needed to finish in the top 6. Cheers Grapho Edited August 1, 2017 by Sonny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Ditto, brilliant work Ryan. Think this season should be easier as both Newcastle and Brighton were virtually certs from the off. Hopefully, Boro will do a Norwich and Sunderland are imploding while Hull have been robbed of some good players. Leaves us with stability needing just those 2 or 3 real quality signings for top 2. Let's hope Hanley's price is coming down every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralturpitude Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Now I'm excited for the new season - Ryan's graph is back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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