Guest Deleted member Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Would love to see the lad start the game... Surely with his scoring boots on at his current level hes due a chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Would love CC to have the confidence to see him as a first team squad player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I really don't see why he wouldn't at least be on the bench for this. Big crowd, sort of, and home fans who won't be on his back should he fail to score. We know what our current 1st team strikers can do, surely 45 minutes for Hirst wouldn't be detrimental to anyone. Only other issue I can think of is if Carlos knows he has no future with us. If he doesn't start I'm going to jump to this conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 The final friendly should be final preparation for the players who are going to start at Preston imo Give little Hirsty a run out against Chesterfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightace Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 (edited) I'd give him a game for experience but whether he's better than the other 5 or 6 forwards we have I'm not sure. Edited July 28, 2017 by Eightace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Keep seeing calls for this. My issues are 1) Right now Is he better then Rhodes, Hooper, Fletcher, Winnall, Forestieri (if he plays up top)? I'd have to say no. So surely we are better getting minutes for the players who will play in the first team? 2) Not denying he's done great at under 18/23 level. I've seen him twice last season (Cambridge & Reading away) personally don't think he's looked ready. What has changed in that respect? Id love for him to do well for us, but would we have the constant clamour for him to play if his surname was anything apart from Hirst? Personally I'd like to see him out on loan playing some proper football first. I'll probably get negged to death for this, but just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Hes to slow and not strong enough Its a no from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRUCE LEE Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 He's not considered to be part of the first team squad due to the contract issue isn't he ? Sign the contract and he will be out on loan playing first team games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahowl Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 He's liked SWFC's tweet about the U23s playing park steels so I'm guessing he'll be playing in that today rather than playing against Rangers tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 We have 7 senior strikers so he won't be anywhere near. He should go out on a full season loan to a league 1 side this year and get some experience and hopefully some goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Am I right in thinking he has not been in a single squad for a pre season game so far. Tells me we plan to loan him out as he definitely ain't in Carlos's plans for this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acquiescefc Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: Am I right in thinking he has not been in a single squad for a pre season game so far. Tells me we plan to loan him out as he definitely ain't in Carlos's plans for this season. But he's been playing long after the regular season ended. Give him 15 or 20 minutes at the end if he's on the bench. Can't chuck him in when this is the last game before season. League cup would be a good starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Hirst will play for U-23's. Say whatever you want, but in my opinion it is job of club's manager to bring youth through and develop them. There is absolutly no way that only objective put in front of Carlos should be to get us promoted. Not to be missunderstood, result is by far most important, but it is not the only target that should be put infront of manager. Any manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddyowl Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) There's no rush, if we were struggling up front then maybe but there's 4 or 5 players in front of him at the minute. IMO a loan out till January in league 1/2 will do him the world of good. Edited July 29, 2017 by paddyowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 31 minutes ago, acquiescefc said: But he's been playing long after the regular season ended. Give him 15 or 20 minutes at the end if he's on the bench. Can't chuck him in when this is the last game before season. League cup would be a good starting point. Maybe that's what they will do. then before the window closes I am expecting him to be sent on loan. What does he gain scoring 40 goals at youth level again. Need to prove he can do it at a better level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 We definitely needed another Hirst thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticOwl Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Surely by putting him training with the full team will show to CC if he was ready. People think giving him a chance in a match will show this but sometimes forget the obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curren Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 the Kid is a talent but at the moment he is not at the level of Rhodes,Hooper,Winnall and Fletcher so he will have to be patient. Would we even be having all these threads if he was called George Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Try to secure him a decent loan until January See how he does in the cut throat world of first team football Take it from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31Dec1966 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 5 hours ago, malek said: Hirst will play for U-23's. Say whatever you want, but in my opinion it is job of club's manager to bring youth through and develop them. There is absolutly no way that only objective put in front of Carlos should be to get us promoted. Not to be missunderstood, result is by far most important, but it is not the only target that should be put infront of manager. Any manager. I disagree. Carlos ONLY objective is to get promotion. If he fails in this he will be sacked. It is the coaching and youth staff who are responsible for the youth and when they think any player is ready they will tell Carlos. Every minute of every game is important and we need our best players on the pitch all the time. I would say this is true for Cup matches too, we have a big squad and should be challenging in the cups aswell as the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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