Holmowl Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 34 minutes ago, DIPPS_S.W.F.C said: Rhodes and Winall with Hooper in behind ... FF on left Boyd on right And I thought I was Kevin Keegan! Sheffield Wednesday 8 - 7 QPR Would certainly be exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 6 hours ago, IstillhateSteveBould said: Dunno but hopefully he can play centre back I've just watched his YouTube highlights, there may be trouble ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 6 hours ago, oldishowl said: I think the Lee goal at Wolves showed what these two can do. It is a goal I like seeing because it shows the strengths of each player. First FF puts the defender under pressure and robs him and has the pace to get away. He is our best striker at doing this Then Joao has the pace to go with him and accept the pass Finally Lee arrived, having run 60 yes while others on both sides stood and watched, to tap in the pull back A goal out of nothing made by the mobility of the players Exactly this. In terms of actual partnership with chemistry, FF/Joao is the best we've got. Nothing else looks anything like as dangerous. And Lee is crucial to us. Always thought that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 Update Hooper Rhodes 26 Hooper Fletcher 6 Forestieri Joao 3 Fletcher Rhodes 2 Winnall Rhodes 2 Hooper Joao 1 Winnall Joao 1 Rhodes Forestieri 1 Hooper 33 Rhodes 31 Fletcher 8 Joao 5 Forestieri 4 Winnall 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crack pot Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) For me hooper is the main starter for me but a mixture of Hooper/Rhodes and Hooper/Winnall for me as the front 2 and forestieri to be played out left is my ideal start up Edited July 23, 2017 by Crack pot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan™ Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Rhodes + another. I'd start out with Hooper alongside him. Can't not play Rhodes when fit, IMO. There's the argument that he has to earn the shirt, but my argument would be that's exactly what he has done with his previous record at this level with other clubs. Proven quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Hooper and Rhodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Cosby Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Hooper and Rhodes for me, with Winnall to come in for Rhodes as and when required/deserved and Fletcher for the more direct option. We are all concerned by the lack of pace in our squad, but pace doesn't always have to come from individuals. I think it's more important that we increase the tempo from the off this season and move the ball more quickly. Gary Hooper is absolutely key to this IMO. When we signed him his record suggested he was an out an out goalscorer, but his link up play surprised me straight away; while he's been with us I think it's got better and better. I'd like to see Hooper dropping off and linking up the play to feed Rhodes, with FF bombing down the left and cutting inside. Without electric pace in our squad, this seems like the best way to inject it into our play instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 41 minutes ago, Cosby Blunkett said: Hooper and Rhodes for me, with Winnall to come in for Rhodes as and when required/deserved and Fletcher for the more direct option. We are all concerned by the lack of pace in our squad, but pace doesn't always have to come from individuals. I think it's more important that we increase the tempo from the off this season and move the ball more quickly. Gary Hooper is absolutely key to this IMO. When we signed him his record suggested he was an out an out goalscorer, but his link up play surprised me straight away; while he's been with us I think it's got better and better. I'd like to see Hooper dropping off and linking up the play to feed Rhodes, with FF bombing down the left and cutting inside. Without electric pace in our squad, this seems like the best way to inject it into our play instead. Spot on about the tempo We do lack pace, but also don't move the ball fast enough When we do, we look a different side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuttyTeabags Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Hooper and Joao FF left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 21 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Spot on about the tempo We do lack pace, but also don't move the ball fast enough When we do, we look a different side It is interesting that people talk about lack of tempo and pace and then pick Hooper and Rhodes. If we want to play high tempo, closing down high up the pitch then you need FF as second striker, he is the only one who can do it. Fletcher or Joao as partner would help him. Equally the one midfield player who adds tempo to the play is Abdi and he didn't feature much in the other thread. Not advocating we pick these players but they are the ones who could add tempo. Can't play high tempo with slow players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MallorcaOwl Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I'd start with Hooper & Rhodes, supported by FF in a free role, and Boyd on the right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 22 minutes ago, oldishowl said: It is interesting that people talk about lack of tempo and pace and then pick Hooper and Rhodes. If we want to play high tempo, closing down high up the pitch then you need FF as second striker, he is the only one who can do it. Fletcher or Joao as partner would help him. Equally the one midfield player who adds tempo to the play is Abdi and he didn't feature much in the other thread. Not advocating we pick these players but they are the ones who could add tempo. Can't play high tempo with slow players I disagree. I think our tempo is set is set across the back four and by our set-up. This season we look 99% likely to play with two proper wingers. I don't see Bannan or Abdi starting games wide after buying Boyd and saying FF is more of a winger now. This will provide width when the full-backs and CBs have the ball. Last season they had so few options that oppos stifled us completely in our own half. There is also attitude. Towards the end of the season we started putting in some longer free-kicks and long throws. For most of the season we passed these backwards and endlessly and tediously recycled. I would also argue 100% against your suggestion that FF is beneficial to tempo when played as striker. He plays way to far from his partner and we have no success getting the ball to stick up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elyowl1 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Fletcher and Hooper , Rhodes and Winnall on bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 21 hours ago, Holmowl said: Lets have a go at the strike partnership. Who do you want to see as the main duo in tandem in August? One vote Rhodes-Hooper so far. Over to you. I agree with Rhodes, for the money spent & his previous goal scoring totals, he has to start IM and be given time. Wouldn't go with Hooper, although he missed a third of the season through injury, 6 league goals, just wasn't enough. Not many assists either. 1st choice: Rhodes-Fletcher 2nd choice: Rhodes-Winnall 3rd choice : Rhodes-Joao 4th choice Rhodes-Hooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hooper Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Hooper and Joao please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, zzmdu said: I agree with Rhodes, for the money spent & his previous goal scoring totals, he has to start IM and be given time. Wouldn't go with Hooper, although he missed a third of the season through injury, 6 league goals, just wasn't enough. Not many assists either. 1st choice: Rhodes-Fletcher 2nd choice: Rhodes-Winnall 3rd choice : Rhodes-Joao 4th choice Rhodes-Hooper You are the 50th to pick a definite pair, and only the 3rd to pick Rhodes-Fletcher. I am really surprised by that. I thought his heroics in April-May, and the fact that he scored more regularly than any other player, would have seen Rhodes-Fletcher as a popular pairing. Clearly Rhodes and Hooper are miles clear of the field in this thread. Edited July 24, 2017 by Holmowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, Holmowl said: Update Hooper Rhodes 26 Hooper Fletcher 6 Forestieri Joao 3 Fletcher Rhodes 2 Winnall Rhodes 2 Hooper Joao 1 Winnall Joao 1 Rhodes Forestieri 1 Hooper 33 Rhodes 31 Fletcher 8 Joao 5 Forestieri 4 Winnall 3 50 votes so here is the half-century update. Hooper Rhodes 30 Hooper Fletcher 7 Hooper Joao 3 Fletcher Rhodes 3 Forestieri Joao 3 Winnall Rhodes 2 Winnall Joao 1 Rhodes Forestieri 1 Hooper 40 Rhodes 36 Fletcher 10 Joao 7 Forestieri 4 Winnall 3 Note - if you are as saddo as me and want your "vote" in this list you need to pick a definite duo. If you say "Hooper with either x or y" or "either Hooper-Rhodes or Fletcher-Winnall" it can't make the list. Edited July 24, 2017 by Holmowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 40 minutes ago, Holmowl said: I disagree. I think our tempo is set is set across the back four and by our set-up. This season we look 99% likely to play with two proper wingers. I don't see Bannan or Abdi starting games wide after buying Boyd and saying FF is more of a winger now. This will provide width when the full-backs and CBs have the ball. Last season they had so few options that oppos stifled us completely in our own half. There is also attitude. Towards the end of the season we started putting in some longer free-kicks and long throws. For most of the season we passed these backwards and endlessly and tediously recycled. I would also argue 100% against your suggestion that FF is beneficial to tempo when played as striker. He plays way to far from his partner and we have no success getting the ball to stick up top. FF didn't in his first year playing with us.... he played most of his games up top but had people around him and runners beyond him in Bannan and Lee which produced much better results and much more attacking threat.... we also scored more goals. The tactics used last year resulted in FF being miles from his partner and midfielders when played up top resulting in him having less of an impact. I believe if FF and Joao played up front together all year and we played more attacking like CC's first year we would score more goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 1 hour ago, oldishowl said: It is interesting that people talk about lack of tempo and pace and then pick Hooper and Rhodes. If we want to play high tempo, closing down high up the pitch then you need FF as second striker, he is the only one who can do it. Fletcher or Joao as partner would help him. Equally the one midfield player who adds tempo to the play is Abdi and he didn't feature much in the other thread. Not advocating we pick these players but they are the ones who could add tempo. Can't play high tempo with slow players Yep, it What said at the beginning of the thread Those players are always on the move stretching defenders, creating space for others Thought at one time we were on the verge of something good, and who knows, had the £20m provided by Mr C, been better spent, we may well be where wanted to be At least we would have been entertained However, recruitment took a different direction and we are currently trying to do it a different way Will it work? I must say, I have my doubts Things are changing fast in the championship, better coaches, better players, and a new way of playing Our recruitment seems stuck back in 2008 Having said that, this is where we are and after that level of investment, we at least have to give it a try I was never one of those clamouring for Jordan Rhodes, but having secured his services, at great cost, we should try and find a way of getting the best out of him So him leading the line, with Hooper, or Forestieri in the hole behind, has to be worth a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now