modboy Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Neepsend would be ideal . Definitely think rebuilding on current site should be the priority though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 How about current training ground land? Would that be big enough for a stadium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobHowe Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, modboy said: How about current training ground land? Would that be big enough for a stadium? That plot is far smaller than the current one. Plus the means of access are poor compared to Hillsborough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobHowe Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 14 minutes ago, modboy said: Neepsend would be ideal . Definitely think rebuilding on current site should be the priority though Whereabouts in Neepsend were you thinking? As with the training ground plot, access is poor and I couldn't see Planning being granted to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 There's that big plot just on the left when you turn left opposite Aldi. Next to the abandoned pub just over the river Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 16 hours ago, LSOwls said: I have knocked up an image (On SketchUp) of how I think the kop could look if we were to build back to Penistone Road and take the height to the top of the south stand. It's also extended above the directors car park and meets the South Stand....... There is a VAST amount of space there that we could use for facilities/ office / corporate / whatever you can think of. I am by no means artistic so go easy on me . I've done it purely out of boredom! Thoughts welcome. Not sure if the images show it but the middle is a timeline of images showing our history; I chose these randomly so I'm sure there are far better choices....... Note: I also did a version where the blue is grey; I think that would look more sustainable in real life and happy to share if anyone cares... nothing wrong with that art wise , you done well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardo Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I would love something like this. The tree huggers and their yellow ribbons would put a stop to it tho. Someone has already mentioned about the uniqueness of the Kop garden.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 39 minutes ago, steveger said: People are forgetting that a modern football club needs to evolve into a 7 day a week business and that means a stadium with facilities fit for purpose to attract business outside of the matchdays, rebuilding in our current location wont address that promble IMO. The location is not favorable and attractive. Our little noisy neighbours in Rotherham and Doncaster have moved forward in this department location wise, Rotherham in the town centre and Doncasters Keepmoat in a prime location next to a lake, leisure, shopping,hotels and nearby motorway links, i was lucky enough to sample the Keepmoats corporate side 2 months ago, it's clean, open. bright, spacey and modern and welcoming in that sense, much better than our phoenix nights wmc upgrade look. I get it with our history, tradition and all that, but maybe, just maybe people will need to accept for us to be a successful football club we need to be a successful business too and that aint gunna happen in a backwater like Hillsborough sadly. The time will come where we have to move forward and make some painful decisions. I quite like the Pennine suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobHowe Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 1 hour ago, modboy said: There's that big plot just on the left when you turn left opposite Aldi. Next to the abandoned pub just over the river Acces is poor though and I would estimate it's not much bigger looking at Google Maps. Its also been used for industrial / manufacturing in the past so the ground will likely be heavily contaminated - which means it will be costly to remediate before anything can be built on it. Plus from memory the area isn't flat so it's a non-starter IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobHowe Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 1 hour ago, steveger said: People are forgetting that a modern football club needs to evolve into a 7 day a week business and that means a stadium with facilities fit for purpose to attract business outside of the matchdays, rebuilding in our current location wont address that promble IMO. The location is not favorable and attractive. Our little noisy neighbours in Rotherham and Doncaster have moved forward in this department location wise, Rotherham in the town centre and Doncasters Keepmoat in a prime location next to a lake, leisure, shopping,hotels and nearby motorway links, i was lucky enough to sample the Keepmoats corporate side 2 months ago, it's clean, open. bright, spacey and modern and welcoming in that sense, much better than our phoenix nights wmc upgrade look. I get it with our history, tradition and all that, but maybe, just maybe people will need to accept for us to be a successful football club we need to be a successful business too and that aint gunna happen in a backwater like Hillsborough sadly. The time will come where we have to move forward and make some painful decisions. But where would you propose? The area of land that the Keepmoat is built on is huge. Space wasn't an issue. The Keepmoat is substantially smaller than Hillsborough is now in terms of overall footprint. Plus there was already good infrastructure and means of access in place. There simply isn't a flat site anywhere in Sheffield that can accommodate the size of stadium footprint we would need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, steveger said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 16 hours ago, eguin said: A few years ago i saw a 'big mac' steaming away in the sink on the Kop toilets, Toilets must have been full or blocked so he must have decided to drop em and block the sink with a Brad Pitt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 3 hours ago, steveger said: People are forgetting that a modern football club needs to evolve into a 7 day a week business and that means a stadium with facilities fit for purpose to attract business outside of the matchdays, rebuilding in our current location wont address that promble IMO. The location is not favorable and attractive. Our little noisy neighbours in Rotherham and Doncaster have moved forward in this department location wise, Rotherham in the town centre and Doncasters Keepmoat in a prime location next to a lake, leisure, shopping,hotels and nearby motorway links, i was lucky enough to sample the Keepmoats corporate side 2 months ago, it's clean, open. bright, spacey and modern and welcoming in that sense, much better than our phoenix nights wmc upgrade look. I get it with our history, tradition and all that, but maybe, just maybe people will need to accept for us to be a successful football club we need to be a successful business too and that aint gunna happen in a backwater like Hillsborough sadly. The time will come where we have to move forward and make some painful decisions. Phuck off back to Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 2 hours ago, steveger said: The Weedon Street site at Meadowhell as mentioned in other threads is big enough and is ideally placed near leisure facilities, transport and more potential customers away from the footballing side...... just my opinion mate, obviously Mr C's is the one that matters. The facilities there will take money away from the club so that wouldn't make any business sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, steveger said: I'd rather be made to go to Yemen than that dump thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 2 hours ago, steveger said: The Weedon Street site at Meadowhell as mentioned in other threads is big enough and is ideally placed near leisure facilities, transport and more potential customers away from the footballing side...... just my opinion mate, obviously Mr C's is the one that matters. would be better for the M1 I should think also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashi Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Isn't the problem that the kop is not a really a stand at all, it's a covered earth bank with seats on it. To be redeveloped the banking and everything sitting on it would need to be completely removed and then an actual structure built on the flattened land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobHowe Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 3 hours ago, steveger said: The Weedon Street site at Meadowhell as mentioned in other threads is big enough and is ideally placed near leisure facilities, transport and more potential customers away from the footballing side...... just my opinion mate, obviously Mr C's is the one that matters. That site was subject to wider Planning Application by British Land in 2009. That particular area of the scheme was due to be developed for residential use. Given that Outline Planning was granted and because it's used as overspill parking by Meadowhall I'll wager British Land own it. If that's the case then I dont see them selling it as the return on developing it, and the wider scheme which involves commercial development, will by significantly higher than I'd imagine would pay to build a stadium. And in any case, you'd still have remediation issues / costs to bear. It just doesn't stack up for me. Option - Redevelop Hillsborough: Cost - a phased redevelopment of the ground, potential short term revenue loss due to reduced capacity. Option - Relocate Ground Cost - land purchase, site remediation, infrastructure development (roads, utilities, etc), stadium, potential loss of revenue due to relocation & access for current fan base, potential increased revenue due to 'new stadium' effect. Unless DC has got incredibly deep pockets IMO I don't see us moving anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride_of_the_road Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 22 hours ago, LSOwls said: I have knocked up an image (On SketchUp) of how I think the kop could look if we were to build back to Penistone Road and take the height to the top of the south stand. It's also extended above the directors car park and meets the South Stand....... There is a VAST amount of space there that we could use for facilities/ office / corporate / whatever you can think of. I am by no means artistic so go easy on me . I've done it purely out of boredom! Thoughts welcome. Not sure if the images show it but the middle is a timeline of images showing our history; I chose these randomly so I'm sure there are far better choices....... Note: I also did a version where the blue is grey; I think that would look more sustainable in real life and happy to share if anyone cares... Looks similar to what forest have done with their 'kop' by utilising the space behind the seating area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobHowe Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Plus it's worth noting that by redeveloping Hillsborough DC would be limiting his financial exposure. One stand at a time means a limited outlay, which could be curtailed if we tank and end up in League 1! Once you press the button on a new stadium, with costs likely to run to at least £100million+ you're committed to complete the project and move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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