Guest bagelybear Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 now we know that he is staying & after playoff misery for the last 2 seasons, do you think that Carlos has to change the style we play to a more aggressive & attack minded to make sure we end up top 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontCallMeOwlCallYou Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I think he will, equilibrium style now. Third season, third style and I think it will be rayt good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl_in_Oz Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 No I don't see why he would change his style. I think we'll continue to be narrow and defensive minded. His last game in charge he brought Nuhiu on - who hasn't scored a league goal in over a year - over Winnall who's scored about 15 in that time. It'd be a stretch to suggest that he'll go from such a defensive mindset to being attacking and free flowing. It's what we want but it's unlikely to be what we get based on what we've seen this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I don't think its a case of wanting to but more a case of needing to. I firmly believe that a top 2 spot could be on the cards if we hit the ground running and in order to do that he needs to identify how he gets the best of players such as Abdi and Rhodes, to do this he needs to change his tactics. I also believe a season of shoehorning players into the team won't wash with the fans or more importantly Mr Chansiri. This is a big season for Carlos, he will either be a hero or an out of work under achiever at the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Owl_in_Oz said: No I don't see why he would change his style. I think we'll continue to be narrow and defensive minded. His last game in charge he brought Nuhiu on - who hasn't scored a league goal in over a year - over Winnall who's scored about 15 in that time. It'd be a stretch to suggest that he'll go from such a defensive mindset to being attacking and free flowing. It's what we want but it's unlikely to be what we get based on what we've seen this year. I suspect Winnall and Rhodes weren't his signings, hence his reluctance to use them. As for changing his style. Wells he's changed it before, but the temptation will be, to go again with the style we used this season. We moved up a couple of places, and that sort of improvement next season, would see us gain automatic promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gableratchet Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 First season 6th, second season 4th, third season ? Do I see a patern emerging here, hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubled123456 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 hour ago, bagelybear said: now we know that he is staying & after playoff misery for the last 2 seasons, do you think that Carlos has to change the style we play to a more aggressive & attack minded to make sure we end up top 2? Doubt it. We need wingers to play to JR strength, a central midfielder and a defender. I'm concerned about his team selection and style of play, but this has been said many times on here so it's nothing new. I was hoping for a change of manager but who? Not re-treads again. However, I've very grateful for the owner being generous with expenditure on players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 hour ago, don'tCallMeOwlCallYo said: I think he will, equilibrium style now. Third season, third style and I think it will be rayt good. I sincerely hope so but I have my doubts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Owl_in_Oz said: No I don't see why he would change his style. I think we'll continue to be narrow and defensive minded. His last game in charge he brought Nuhiu on - who hasn't scored a league goal in over a year - over Winnall who's scored about 15 in that time. It'd be a stretch to suggest that he'll go from such a defensive mindset to being attacking and free flowing. It's what we want but it's unlikely to be what we get based on what we've seen this year. He changed it from the first season. Why wouldn't he change it again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offalyowl Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Think it's going to be the same again with Carlos but hope not but then again if it gets us promoted, I can't complain but can't see it and also I think we all know by the players we sign and release, hope I'm wrong but honestly can't see it prove me wrong Carlos and id gladly hope my hands up and admit it and hope I have to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I look at teams who score 3 or 4 and even more , away from home , Tottenham come to mind lately and I just cannot ever see us being that ambitious and attack minded , our mindset seems to be get in front and hang onto the lead instead of killing teams off , my pet hate is when we try and play keep ball by the corner flag , that irritates me so much ,the under 23's we're doing it against Hull when we were 3-1 up !! I don't pay to see that , we need to play with more freedom this coming season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 It only needs a tweak here and there, so I hope so, for his sake and for ours. We don't need hung-ho. We don't need two flying wingers. IMO this is what we need:- Simple balance. Two CMs, two wingers, two proper strikers Positivity. Mix short backward throws and free-kicks with launches into the box Tempo. But this comes with balance anyway. Trust the players to impose our game on the oppos, not insist we compromise to stifle oppos It won't win 46 matches, but it will win us enough to finish top two. Am I optimistic? No. I think we all know Carlos's favourite side. It starts when everyone is fit, and it's awful. I predict we see Bannan LW, Fessi striker. It won't work, it never does, but this time fans will have zero patience and if we are 8th-10th several weeks in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I wish i could be more positive..............................i`m actually really surprised that he is staying, his body language in the play off semi screamed for all the world that he had ,had enough and wanted to go home. I like the guy , i think we all do...............but, he HAS to alter his style this season and be less stubborn in his team selections and MUCH more proactive in his tactics or we might be looking at it all ending rather acrimoniously sometime around November. It really is stick or twist time for Carlos , and i hope he has the guts to admit where we went wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueDan Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Hopefully Chansiri has picked up on a bit of negativity around the style of play and "suggested" that Carlos should change his style a bit. Then again Carlos doesn't seem to be the sort to have it imposed on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 A big reason Carlos sets up the way he does , tight first half especially, is to try and avoid conceding the first goal. From memory we haven't won many after conceding . Is there anyway that gives the stat"" games won in championship this season after conceding first goal " ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 minute ago, oldishowl said: A big reason Carlos sets up the way he does , tight first half especially, is to try and avoid conceding the first goal. From memory we haven't won many after conceding . Is there anyway that gives the stat"" games won in championship this season after conceding first goal " ? Forest, Bristol and Wigan to name but a few if my memory is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lomas613 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I hope part of conversation was "you promised attacking football what happened last season to it you can have job if you do it again" I hope in some way that was translated across to him surely something got said cause you could clearly see difference last season to season before. Also the fact we did it against Norwich and hammered them 5-1 shows we can still do it. But he changed it again a week later confusing but still true. Like been posted on here a happy medium would be good. I'm sure something had to be compromised and promised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_ Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 He will. No need to worry, if we can 'scrape by' and end the season in 4th, we'd shag the league and win it next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 There are lessons to be learnt from both seasons, both positive and negative. I think he is bright enough to take them on board and make us even stronger People on a whole seem to want to forget we were better this season than last! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I hope so, but suspect he won't. Maybe if he brings in the players necessary, i.e the likes of Ince who we were linked with may see an attacking shift. I hope DC made this a key consideration of extending his contract......sell/release some potatoes and buy more fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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