General_Grievous Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I would absolutely love Carlos to stay if he learns the lessons from this year. Unfortunately I'm not sure he would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 If you want to make any sort of comment about Carlos, it's very important not to post it in one of the 49 Carlos threads. Please start a brand new thread instead,as it makes you feel much more important. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, General_Grievous said: I would absolutely love Carlos to stay if he learns the lessons from this year. Unfortunately I'm not sure he would What lessons are you hoping he's learnt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I don't think Carlos sees it like that. He'd say that the teams (non-parachute) who get out of this league tend to be pragmatic. He'd say that although open, attacking football is his thing, we're not good enough to go up playing it. Norwich have parachute cash, so maybe they could go up entertainingly if he went there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General_Grievous Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 Just go back to the mega threads then and keep out of this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General_Grievous Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Philb125 said: What lessons are you hoping he's learnt? Team selections and playing style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Team selections definitely. Playing style. Maybe. Had Hooper not got injured, then there's a good chance we'd now be in the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Just now, General_Grievous said: Team selections and playing style Yes, but what is the lesson. I'm curious as he's achieved the highest finish in 15 years or so and over last 30 games of season was according to form table level with Brighton. That without many key players... So so what is he to change, what is the lesson, what must he do different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 That playing style works very well when Hooper's there. Six consecutive victories against some very tricky opponents, under pressure, proves that. The problem is that there aren't any obvious replacements for Hooper when he's injured. Ideally we could do with a stand-in for Hooper, but I can't think of a similar player we could sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northampton Owl Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) I disagree you've only got to look at Chris Hughton to see that your completely wrong. 2 playoff defeats then up at third attempt in autos. What we need is continuity and stability. Something that's very rare in modern footy Edited May 20, 2017 by Northampton Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: That playing style works very well when Hooper's there. Six consecutive victories against some very tricky opponents, under pressure, proves that. The problem is that there aren't any obvious replacements for Hooper when he's injured. Ideally we could do with a stand-in for Hooper, but I can't think of a similar player we could sign. The same Hooper, who has scored in 2 wins all season, and played regularly in the 1st third of season, which saw us in 10th. A good player, but some of the Hooper posts are ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Northampton Owl said: I disagree you've only got to look at Chris Hughton to see that your completely wrong. 2 playoff defeats then up at third attempt in autos. What we need is continuity and stability. Something that's very rare in modern footy Can you explain to me, what (repeatable) methods does Carlos use/have to get us to score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 hour ago, zzmdu said: The same Hooper, who has scored in 2 wins all season, and played regularly in the 1st third of season, which saw us in 10th. A good player, but some of the Hooper posts are ridiculous. But what was the complexion of the rest of the team at that time? I just think Hooper allows us to play defensively AND bring our strikers into play, at least with the way we're playing at present. Now, had we a pacey winger who could get crosses in, then of course we'd have an alternative method of goal creation. That has to be a priority in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 44 minutes ago, zzmdu said: Can you explain to me, what (repeatable) methods does Carlos use/have to get us to score? Thats an easy one. 442 with two proper strikers (and two CMs) Over the last two seasons we score almost two per game doing that. We score just over one per game when he plays one striker + Nando. Edit - and before you say "ah, but that leaves us wide-open", that line-up doesn't concede more per match either. Win-win. Edited May 20, 2017 by Holmowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Holmowl said: Thats an easy one. 442 with two proper strikers (and two CMs) Over the last two seasons we score almost two per game doing that. We score just over one per game when he plays one striker + Nando. Edit - and before you say "ah, but that leaves us wide-open", that line-up doesn't concede more per match either. Win-win. You've just said a formation, I asked for a method we use to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almat Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 42 minutes ago, zzmdu said: You've just said a formation, I asked for a method we use to score. To be fair, Holmowl did state the formation/method he showed scores almost 2 goals per game. Which would equate to almost 100 goals for the season. That'd do for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroswfc Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 6 hours ago, Mr Farrell said: If you want to make any sort of comment about Carlos, it's very important not to post it in one of the 49 Carlos threads. Please start a brand new thread instead,as it makes you feel much more important. Thanks. Completely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 6 hours ago, zzmdu said: Can you explain to me, what (repeatable) methods does Carlos use/have to get us to score? We go up their end of the pitch and put the ball in the net. Going on the last two seasons. It seems to work a lot more than it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 39 minutes ago, Sham67 said: We go up their end of the pitch and put the ball in the net. Going on the last two seasons. It seems to work a lot more than it doesn't. I agree, our method is to work the ball into the final third & hope it goes into the net somehow - with a lot investment this has took us to the play offs, where we've been found wanting. The succesfull Wednesday teams (&others), imo had a repeatable method for scoring. We have none, unless you could enlighten me. If Keiran Lee has the ball in the centre circle, what are his USUAL tried & tested outlets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 21 minutes ago, zzmdu said: I agree, our method is to work the ball into the final third & hope it goes into the net somehow - with a lot investment this has took us to the play offs, where we've been found wanting. The succesfull Wednesday teams (&others), imo had a repeatable method for scoring. We have none, unless you could enlighten me. If Keiran Lee has the ball in the centre circle, what are his USUAL tried & tested outlets? I'm not sure what you're saying. Unless it's we need to be more predictable to be more successful. Hence my facetious reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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