Martin Howson 79 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 5 hours ago, Kameron said: What is the reasoning for playing FF,Hutch, & lee when without them we'd been on fire. There is absolutely no justification for it, none of the three were anywhere near fit enough yet CC saw fit to play them at such a crucial stage in the season. We went from battering Newcastle a few weeks previous to what was seen on Wednesday night because of the changes CC made, both tactical and personnel, the players aren’t to blame for missing penalties, supporters aren’t to blame for questioning the manager, the chairman isn’t to blame for his manager spending 20 million quid yet deciding Nuhiu is the man to save the season. There is one man to blame for us not heading to Wembley at the end of the month and he should hold is hands up and say he got it wrong, I don’t accept Huddersfield were the better team, we threw away a very good chance because CC didn’t have the b*LLocks to go for it. My thoughts entirely pal Link to post Share on other sites
torryowl 12,995 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 5 hours ago, Kameron said: What is the reasoning for playing FF,Hutch, & lee when without them we'd been on fire. There is absolutely no justification for it, none of the three were anywhere near fit enough yet CC saw fit to play them at such a crucial stage in the season. We went from battering Newcastle a few weeks previous to what was seen on Wednesday night because of the changes CC made, both tactical and personnel, the players aren’t to blame for missing penalties, supporters aren’t to blame for questioning the manager, the chairman isn’t to blame for his manager spending 20 million quid yet deciding Nuhiu is the man to save the season. There is one man to blame for us not heading to Wembley at the end of the month and he should hold is hands up and say he got it wrong, I don’t accept Huddersfield were the better team, we threw away a very good chance because CC didn’t have the b*LLocks to go for it. hard to argue against any of that ..... Link to post Share on other sites
adzz 33 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 We should look at our last two end of season results which was a play-off final and a play off-semi final. People are moaning because it was expected that we'd progress to a position where we can achieve that extra step which would lead to our promotion. Finishing in any position within the playoffs is meaningless due to the nature of how it works - 6th can beat 3rd despite the points difference..Spending tonnes of money to end up in what is ultimately the same position of ending up in the play offs despite the team we lost to spending far less won't make people feel better. We can't just pointlessly bring up the results of the past to ridicule those who aren't happy with the end result. It's just ridiculous when we can bring up any past position in an attempt to claim that people can't criticise SWFC. "Oh we spent tonnes of money and finished 2 places higher without actually progressing our style of play and playing those who were meant to improve us? Better bring up the fact Alan Irvine was poor and Dave Jones didn't improve our league position." Link to post Share on other sites
Blue and white 12,276 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 11 hours ago, ramone said: Here it is again... 'The other 3 teams in the play offs' - What of it? 3 of the teams this season achieved more points this season than the teams in the play offs did last season. It was far more difficult this year than it was last year. Judge it on a teams performance over the 46 game season, not their team name or what they've done in the last 10 years. The teams were there on merit and more so than last season. So its acceptable a team like Huddersfield with a budget not dissimilar to Rotherham and made up of loan players should play us off the field. Link to post Share on other sites
ramone 4,933 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Blue and white said: So its acceptable a team like Huddersfield with a budget not dissimilar to Rotherham and made up of loan players should play us off the field. They finished on the same amount of points as us. Fair game Link to post Share on other sites
Blue and white 12,276 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Just now, ramone said: They finished on the same amount of points as us. Fair game Like I said how bad is that, they also finished on -2 goal difference. Link to post Share on other sites
Blue and white 12,276 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 7 hours ago, Kameron said: What is the reasoning for playing FF,Hutch, & lee when without them we'd been on fire. There is absolutely no justification for it, none of the three were anywhere near fit enough yet CC saw fit to play them at such a crucial stage in the season. We went from battering Newcastle a few weeks previous to what was seen on Wednesday night because of the changes CC made, both tactical and personnel, the players aren’t to blame for missing penalties, supporters aren’t to blame for questioning the manager, the chairman isn’t to blame for his manager spending 20 million quid yet deciding Nuhiu is the man to save the season. There is one man to blame for us not heading to Wembley at the end of the month and he should hold is hands up and say he got it wrong, I don’t accept Huddersfield were the better team, we threw away a very good chance because CC didn’t have the b*LLocks to go for it. Post of the week, sums it up perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites
Almat 3,373 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 8 hours ago, Kameron said: What is the reasoning for playing FF,Hutch, & lee when without them we'd been on fire. There is absolutely no justification for it, none of the three were anywhere near fit enough yet CC saw fit to play them at such a crucial stage in the season. We went from battering Newcastle a few weeks previous to what was seen on Wednesday night because of the changes CC made, both tactical and personnel, the players aren’t to blame for missing penalties, supporters aren’t to blame for questioning the manager, the chairman isn’t to blame for his manager spending 20 million quid yet deciding Nuhiu is the man to save the season. There is one man to blame for us not heading to Wembley at the end of the month and he should hold is hands up and say he got it wrong, I don’t accept Huddersfield were the better team, we threw away a very good chance because CC didn’t have the b*LLocks to go for it. Thread ender if ever I saw one. I would hope even the most hardened clapper couldn't really find anything in this post worth arguing against. Link to post Share on other sites
ramone 4,933 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 8 hours ago, Blue and white said: Like I said how bad is that, they also finished on -2 goal difference. You think it's bad that we got 81 points? Link to post Share on other sites
Bob 835 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, ramone said: You think it's bad that we got 81 points? Did those 81 points get us promoted ? It's the long game we have to win. Link to post Share on other sites
Bluey9 543 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 23 hours ago, Semedo's ferret said: Hate the 'we bottled it' statements. Why can't we just say we weren't good enough on the night? Carlos bottled it with his negative and inept tactics. we had a much better squad than Udders but they had the better manager on the day, Link to post Share on other sites
Rogerwyldesmullet 2,913 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, Kameron said: What is the reasoning for playing FF,Hutch, & lee when without them we'd been on fire. There is absolutely no justification for it, none of the three were anywhere near fit enough yet CC saw fit to play them at such a crucial stage in the season. We went from battering Newcastle a few weeks previous to what was seen on Wednesday night because of the changes CC made, both tactical and personnel, the players aren’t to blame for missing penalties, supporters aren’t to blame for questioning the manager, the chairman isn’t to blame for his manager spending 20 million quid yet deciding Nuhiu is the man to save the season. There is one man to blame for us not heading to Wembley at the end of the month and he should hold is hands up and say he got it wrong, I don’t accept Huddersfield were the better team, we threw away a very good chance because CC didn’t have the b*LLocks to go for it. Is it possible to agree with this but also congratulate Carlos and the team for the season and be confident in their ability to sustain a challenge next year? I think/hope/pray that CC, the players and the club will have learnt from this. We have got a strong squad that must feel like Brighton did last year "How the F are we not going to Wembley?" They know by now what to expect in this division and could react really well, combining an ability for grinding out results with stronger more positive performances. Am a fan of CC but he looked depressed from the moment Wallace went off and he does need to take a long hard look at those two crunch matches HULL/Hudds where he chose not to lose by playing Hutch instead of going for the win. The future for SH is surely in a back 3, CH or protecting the back 4 in a 3 or 5 man midfield. He's not mobile enough to be CM in a 4:4:2. Edited May 20, 2017 by Rogerwyldesmullet Link to post Share on other sites
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