nethertonowl Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, owls-swfc said: Grant Hanley.. at a guess.. No great loss for me, Big fee, big wages, limited potential improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, owls-swfc said: Grant Hanley.. at a guess.. Yep, because sitting on the bench (if your lucky) for your Prem club is way better for your international career than playing every game for a top Championship side....if true what's wrong with these players. Edited July 25, 2017 by Morepork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shezza Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 49 minutes ago, ChinaOwl said: I have just read that article and it is the most clear indication yet, as many have believed, that Carlos is not really responsible for the transfer or selection of players. One thing I find intriguing is Chansiri sometimes doesn't even discuss offers made for players with Carlos and seems to decide himself whether a player is sold or not. I have deep reservations about that kind of set up. I can see ways that it could potentially cause rifts between the players and the management. Carlos should at least be made aware of these things in my opinion. He says something to that effect every pre-season. Wouldn't worry too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twolaptops Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Morepork said: Yep, because sitting on the bench for your Prem club is way better for your international career than playing every game for a top Championship side....if true what's wrong with these players. £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££'s for sitting on their aR$Es Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offalyowl Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Morepork said: Yep, because sitting on the bench for your Prem club is way better for your international career than playing every game for a top Championship side....if true what's wrong with these players. Too much money got f-ck all, mercenaries that's what they are and sometimes you can't blame for it either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, twolaptops said: £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££'s for sitting on their aR$Es It can only be that because there is roger all merit to the argument that not playing at all is better for your international chances!! Lucky escape. Edited July 25, 2017 by Morepork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camffiti Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, nethertonowl said: No great loss for me, Big fee, big wages, limited potential improvement. Sh*t anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, camffiti said: Sh*t anyway? If you could get that avatar to mouth the words "sh*t anyway" I think you'd have the perfect setup! Edited July 25, 2017 by Morepork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 18 minutes ago, Morepork said: Yep, because sitting on the bench (if your lucky) for your Prem club is way better for your international career than playing every game for a top Championship side....if true what's wrong with these players. Playing devil's advocate, it could be that whoever this player was firmly believes they're good enough to play in the Premier League, and they'd rather remain at their current club, train hard, wait for first team injuries and try and force their way into the reckoning and becoming a first team regular rather than dropping down a league. Which would be a pretty understandable and if anything noble stance to take Not that I think that's the likely reasoning behind it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave DJ Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 16 minutes ago, owls-swfc said: Grant Hanley.. at a guess.. Surely it wouldn't be Grant Hanley, he's spent most of his career in the championship and knows he's not going to play much for Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 1 minute ago, StudentOwl said: Playing devil's advocate, it could be that whoever this player was firmly believes they're good enough to play in the Premier League, and they'd rather remain at their current club, train hard, wait for first team injuries and try and force their way into the reckoning and becoming a first team regular rather than dropping down a league. Which would be a pretty understandable and if anything noble stance to take Not that I think that's the likely reasoning behind it... Your quite right of course, but it's much more satisfying to be judge and jury!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Is Jagielka still classed as an "international"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Whilst it important to wait for improvements we really need a CB asap as only Lees has played pee-season games so far on a regular basis hasn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Who says it was a Premiership defender, could well have been that Zungu, maybe he wants a Prem move and not a championship club. Could be anyone to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: Who says it was a Premiership defender, could well have been that Zungu, maybe he wants a Prem move and not a championship club. Could be anyone to be honest. Zungu plays in midfield, so unlikely he'd be the international defender EDIT: And this is why I should read the article, because at no point does it say he's a defender Still, considering Zungu's love for us on twitter, going to say it's unlikely it was him! Edited July 25, 2017 by StudentOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Not Hanley as he's got no chance of progressing his international career in Newcastle's junior squad, and no EPL club will touch him. But maybe why we have apparently turned to Dean, but so much smoke and mirrors it's difficult. Clearly, we are trying to drive down prices , wages with FFP talk (£39 million loss over 3 years - no where near). Still think Hanley's the big one, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 If it was Hanley then it does suggest there is still a fair bit of cash available for transfers. Of course it may be a stance engineered to get more money for the player. Curious this deal nearly took place last Friday when we were in Portugal, just possible the player in question was not British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 53 minutes ago, nethertonowl said: So who was the premier league international defender who didn't want to come to Hillsborough? Could it be the youngster at Man City we were linked with a loan move for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 19 minutes ago, StudentOwl said: Playing devil's advocate, it could be that whoever this player was firmly believes they're good enough to play in the Premier League, and they'd rather remain at their current club, train hard, wait for first team injuries and try and force their way into the reckoning and becoming a first team regular rather than dropping down a league. Which would be a pretty understandable and if anything noble stance to take Not that I think that's the likely reasoning behind it... If it's Hanley I believe he's been involved in the last 2 or 3 pre season friendlies Newcastle have played so there may be some truth in your reasoning. However according to reports we lost out to Newcastle for Hanley's signature last summer because Newcastle offered him the better deal. Despite the fact he hardly got a kick for them in the Championship he's probably just got a decent pay rise for being promoted to the Premier. The cynic in me suggests that financial concerns will be a major driver in his decision to stay where he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) I suppose it all comes down to whether you want to gamble when it comes down to FFP and it's pretty obvious that the club don't want to. That said with regards to slow starts whether we bring in players before next Saturday or not, we start the season with a stronger squad than what we've had at any time since we returned to the championship in 2012, so we're in a better position to have a faster start this time. Edited July 25, 2017 by Great Big Galaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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