GoldGigsChris Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 We needed to build on the team, but had a scatter gun approach to buying individuals. Who spends £10m on a player and then doesn't play to his strengths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 minute ago, vulva said: That. As good as Carlos has been, it's time for a new voice. I actually don't think DC will have a decision to make. Carlos will walk in my opinion. I hope so. He doesn't deserve the sack. He's a good manager but not got that ability to see us over the line. Hopefully he walks and we can thank him and move on. He never learns from past mistakes unfortunately. His recruitment was horrendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Beatpusher said: Abdi, Buckley, MacManaman fit and in the squad, things could have been different. That would have given us so many more options... They weren't, and we're left in the championship. We go again next season with an incredibly strong squad, currently probably stronger than the ones coming down... They hardly played when they were fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMacLean Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 They said in commentary all of our expense was sat on the bench.DC can't have been pleased to see the way our signings worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chardron Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I think that's the last we'll see of CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Sadly this team lacks the mental whatever it is to get over the line. I think we may need a rethink. That's not just the manager (who I have a tonne of respect for), but some of the players. Very concerned about a malaise hanging over this current squad after two successive play off defeats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, vulva said: That the side side tonight was exactly the one that lost against Hull, other than Fletcher, in place of an injured Hooper. Our recruitment in the summer was horrific. And Reach tbf. Played virtually the entire game. It is quite staggering. If I've got one major criticism of Carlos, it's his recruitment. Not that I see any problems with the players he has signed, it's the ones he hasn't. Or rather, the type of players he doesn't seem to think we need. We've just played Huddersfield and Fulham and it's really hit home how much we lack pacy, dynamic, exciting players. Everyones talking about Carlos negative tactics and slow tempo....the truth is, we just don't have the players to do it. He likes intelligent players, but they're all plodders. On top of that, he doesn't seem to think we need physical presence in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, vulva said: That the side side tonight was exactly the one that lost against Hull, other than Fletcher, in place of an injured Hooper. Our recruitment in the summer was horrific. These two games - but especially tonight - for me was like a microscope being placed on question marks which have existed all season. Why did almost ALL our recruitment fail in the summer? Why are we still playing square pegs in round holes to fit individuals in? Why have our tactics been so frequently negative? Why have the strikers looked so isolated with no service? Why are we so slow and ponderous in possession? Where do we get the best out of Forrestieri? Why do we appear stuck to 4-4-2? Where has the spark gone? Some of these have been question marks which have remained since before a ball was kicked, right through to IMO costing us tonight and over a 2 leg tie, via various periods of immense frustration throughout the season. You can pick apart NUMEROUS issues from the 2 legs, but especially tonight's game, and find legitimate questions - not moans or being negative - that people have been asking since AUGUST. And it's all come to a head in May. My suspicion is that Carlos will now go. My personal hope is that he does - based more on that I think we need a psychological change and injection of fresh ideas more than as a reflection of his job. What's certain is that if he stays, ALL of those questions NEED answering between tomorrow morning and early August. We absolutely cannot "build" on this season in the way we've "built" on the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatpusher Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, rickygoo said: They hardly played when they were fit. That's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 When you've got a striker - who potentially cost 10 million - who doesn't want to take a penalty - then you've got to be wondering what on earth is going on. Such a shame as I would love CC to succeed, but I just can't see it. I'd say the same for some of these players too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlin' Wolf Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 20 minutes ago, fatzooma said: So many weak links..Hate to say it but Bannan has lost it.. Bannan was easily our best player tonight. Showed more leadership than anyone in the way he performed and vocally. He was right up for it from start to finish, including penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhgate Owl Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 we need a ba$tard of a manager someone who won't take crap and demands the best Carlos,laws,gray,sturrock all nice guys but achieved nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 There's no pace.. Literally zero, zilch. Tonight was crying out for someone to come on with a bit of pace, someone who can take a man on, beat a full back. Instead we got the same old tried and tested, side to side, side to side, hoof nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 minute ago, SiJ said: There's no pace.. Literally zero, zilch. Tonight was crying out for someone to come on with a bit of pace, someone who can take a man on, beat a full back. Instead we got the same old tried and tested, side to side, side to side, hoof nonsense. Extra time was crying out for Callum McManaman. He better have been injured or his loan up. If it was a decision to not include him in the squad CC should go right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hazza88 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 28 minutes ago, fatzooma said: So many weak links..Hate to say it but Bannan has lost it.. Bannan was the only bugger who played well when he switched back inside we created things! I think our players are playing with the shackles on amd they need to come off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshTheOwl Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, SiJ said: There's no pace.. Literally zero, zilch. Tonight was crying out for someone to come on with a bit of pace, someone who can take a man on, beat a full back. Instead we got the same old tried and tested, side to side, side to side, hoof nonsense. It was quite scary the pace of the Huddersfield team tonight. From the full backs to the wingers all of them were comfortable at running at us. Hunt and Pudil couldn't handle it whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshTheOwl Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, sheffield_dave said: These two games - but especially tonight - for me was like a microscope being placed on question marks which have existed all season. Why did almost ALL our recruitment fail in the summer? Why are we still playing square pegs in round holes to fit individuals in? Why have our tactics been so frequently negative? Why have the strikers looked so isolated with no service? Why are we so slow and ponderous in possession? Where do we get the best out of Forrestieri? Why do we appear stuck to 4-4-2? Where has the spark gone? Some of these have been question marks which have remained since before a ball was kicked, right through to IMO costing us tonight and over a 2 leg tie, via various periods of immense frustration throughout the season. You can pick apart NUMEROUS issues from the 2 legs, but especially tonight's game, and find legitimate questions - not moans or being negative - that people have been asking since AUGUST. And it's all come to a head in May. My suspicion is that Carlos will now go. My personal hope is that he does - based more on that I think we need a psychological change and injection of fresh ideas more than as a reflection of his job. What's certain is that if he stays, ALL of those questions NEED answering between tomorrow morning and early August. We absolutely cannot "build" on this season in the way we've "built" on the last. It's a good post. Looking over the games at home, other than Norwich and Newcastle I can't think of a game where we have played exceptionally well. Ok we've come away with a win but the football the majority of the time has been very negative. You do have to wonder why as well, we went and signed Abdi who is an attack minded player, Rhodes and Winnall bother strikers. Why spend so much money and revert back to last seasons squad so often? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 29 minutes ago, Beatpusher said: Abdi, Buckley, MacManaman fit and in the squad, things could have been different. That would have given us so many more options... They weren't, and we're left in the championship. We go again next season with an incredibly strong squad, currently probably stronger than the ones coming down... Carlos's best results have come when he has had a threadbare first XI. The more players he has, the more he dithers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coorong Owl Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 before I sign out seen as I've never really spoken in this site until today and it is the staggering topic. For me to watch the game today I had to setup 4 - 12volt batteries aand as satilite dish to watch this game as I'm 2 hours from civilisation in Australia with the nearest country neighbour 10-15 miles away. But I'm not not jumping into the Coroong to drown myself. Mainly because it's so salty I'll float to the top but regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 minute ago, JoshTheOwl said: It's a good post. Looking over the games at home, other than Norwich and Newcastle I can't think of a game where we have played exceptionally well. Ok we've come away with a win but the football the majority of the time has been very negative. You do have to wonder why as well, we went and signed Abdi who is an attack minded player, Rhodes and Winnall bother strikers. Why spend so much money and revert back to last seasons squad so often? Abdi is, like Rhodes, something of a symbol of how maddeningly frustrating this season has been. Promoted with Watford, their player of the season, played almost 30 matches in the Premiership for them. Comes here and does nowt. That we have produced such negative, tedious football for significant stretches of this season when we have attacking options including Forrestieri, Abdi, Fletcher, Rhodes, Hooper, Winnall is actually laughable. The more I think about this stuff the more I make my mind up about Carlos. I'm desperately intrigued to see what another manager would do with some of the players at his disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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