BIG D Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) I wouldn't want him playing for that dikhead at Mansfield. Edited May 12, 2017 by BIG D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 15 minutes ago, thewookieisdown said: Spot on. Didn't go tonight but did go on Monday. The first team I'd seen him and I was struck by how undeveloped he is physically. This of course is long term exciting. Emphatically he is not one of those 18yos who bosses it because he's grown ahead of the pack. (Hallam Hope, anyone?) It does mean that he's probably a little off being able to contribute at upper championship level. Or at least that's what I'd say on the limited evidence. Maybe a bench player next year if we stay down, but not quite convinced. If we were loaning him out, it might be interesting to look at overseas options. Good summing up. Mirrors my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookieisdown Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Incidentally, exciting as Hirst is, the player who really caught the eye Monday was Connor Kirby. If he can stay healthy, I reckon he's got a huge career ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1867 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, thewookieisdown said: Just think if you go too far down the tree you end up in a league where you learn a certain amount of game craft but don't develop skills. And (a prejudice, perhaps) you risk getting kicked to death by central defenders of a certain type. I knew this was coming from someone, it just doesn't happen in modern day football. When was the last time you saw a young player out on loan and get his legs broken or suffer a bad injury, which was down to a defender being an idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 For me he needs a season long loan at a decent level, there is no substitute for playing competitive football at a decent level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Can anyone see him having the same impact that the young lad Sessegnon has had at Fulham? I'd say no and for that reason he's not ready for the first team just yet, especially a team in the higher reaches of the league. I definitely think a move to League One or Two plus be good for him next season. I know Everton are rumoured to be interested and if he signed for them then they'd ship him out on loan for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talon Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Just now, MuddyFunkster said: Can anyone see him having the same impact that the young lad Sessegnon has had at Fulham? I'd say no and for that reason he's not ready for the first team just yet... If you're good enough, you're old enough, and its impossible to know just how good he is unless he's given a proper opportunity - not just a brief cameo on the bench. Did anyone see Warhurst having the impact he did, before he went up front? Sometimes, you've got to roll the dice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 14 minutes ago, thewookieisdown said: Incidentally, exciting as Hirst is, the player who really caught the eye Monday was Connor Kirby. If he can stay healthy, I reckon he's got a huge career ahead Sorry mate, missed the key, and negged you. Can someone please plus him for me... Connor Kirby, or as I call him - iron lungs. Really good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolaOwls Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Only 300 pound extra a week to keep him here. 30% more than the clubs offered him. You do the math. Embarrassing by the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 He won't be strong enough till he is 19 by the looks of him. Because he is tall you see, takes longer to fill out....But when he does, he's gonna be VERY strong indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wath-owl Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 17 minutes ago, Bodhidharma said: He won't be strong enough till he is 19 by the looks of him. Because he is tall you see, takes longer to fill out....But when he does, he's gonna be VERY strong indeed. He's probably a little reminiscent of how Connor Wickham was physically when he broke through at Ipswich, certainly in terms of height. Let's hope he 'fills out' in a similar way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfoster Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 29 minutes ago, ViolaOwls said: Only 300 pound extra a week to keep him here. 30% more than the clubs offered him. You do the math. Embarrassing by the club Sounds like you know the story of what's been the problem. Care to share a bit more info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolaOwls Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, dfoster said: Sounds like you know the story of what's been the problem. Care to share a bit more info? Wants a grand a week ( his dads his negotiator) club offered 700. He's stormed out ( dad) as he can get x5 more by 3 prem clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfoster Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 If that's right and the only disparity between the parties it will get sorted pretty easily. Cheers for info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1867 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, Wath-owl said: He's probably a little reminiscent of how Connor Wickham was physically when he broke through at Ipswich, certainly in terms of height. Let's hope he 'fills out' in a similar way. or he could just wear a junior kit? and get a tattoo sleeve and grow a beard like all the cool kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolaOwls Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, TINKERBELL said: It's difficult with young players to see if they will make it.but for me he's being showing promise for a while so let's pay the lad and keep him. We have to keep the lad. 36 goals is enough for me to make that contract worth a big punt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 £52K a year at 18. Is he worth it to the club, yes. Is it stupid money in football, yes. Get it paid DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dronfield Blue said: £52K a year at 18. Is he worth it to the club, yes. Is it stupid money in football, yes. Get it paid DC. If the going rate for top English strikers is anything to go by he could be worth north of £30 million one day. It's not even a gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 If that's true (£1k a week) then surely it's a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 He's got better as the season progressed. I don't think he was that prolific for u23s at first but now he's well in there. I think the only thing he needs is to bulk out a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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