steelowl Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 You'll get over it, mi'Lord. After all, it is just a football shirt. I actually think that statement is the crux of the matter mate, because to me and perhaps a few others, it isn't JUST a football shirt it's the symbolisation of a club that I have followed all my life and I don't like people to mess with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I actually think that statement is the crux of the matter mate, because to me and perhaps a few others, it isn't JUST a football shirt it's the symbolisation of a club that I have followed all my life and I don't like people to mess with it. This is the second day running you've jumped on one of my flippant posts and tried to make a serious point off the back of it. Go back and read my previous post before that one to see why I was jokingly saying what I did in response to Lord Snooty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 See that 'abomination' was my favourite Wednesday kit as a kid - to me, that was the shirt of my heroes and I wanted to be seen in it everywhere I went. I wanted all my mates down the park wearing their Manchester United, Liverpool and Newcastle shirts to see that I was different; I was Wednesday. And that was the shirt that meant that to me at that crucial time of life where you start to forge a sense of your own identity. As much as it might pain some, I imagine there'll be kids out there today forming similar attachments to our current shirt, and for them, as for me, Wednesday will not inevitably and exclusively be regular blue and white stripes. not sure if it's a browser issue, but I can't see the poster attached to quotes - sorry for appearing to pick on you -unintentional but the dispute about 'just a shirt' flippant or not stands I have traced the (your) post in question and you'll be surprised that I agree I suppose it's all about when you first watch the team and what strip you sort of bond with as it were. My lads like the sanderson broad white middle one I feckin hated it . When I was 7 I won a school art competition for a painting of the owls running out at Hillsborough they had royal blue stripes on black shorts and hooped socks - shut my eyes I'm there and hence my passion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTacoSWFC Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 Click on the number next to the heart .. and try not to take it too personally Haha I'm not going to take it personally, just want to add up the plus/negs and see what percentage it works out as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 not sure if it's a browser issue, but I can't see the poster attached to quotes - sorry for appearing to pick on you -unintentional but the dispute about 'just a shirt' flippant or not stands I have traced the (your) post in question and you'll be surprised that I agree I suppose it's all about when you first watch the team and what strip you sort of bond with as it were. My lads like the sanderson broad white middle one I feckin hated it . When I was 7 I won a school art competition for a painting of the owls running out at Hillsborough they had royal blue stripes on black shorts and hooped socks - shut my eyes I'm there and hence my passion Yeah - I think everyone's having the same issues with quotes and notifications. Somebody needs to put another shilling in the meter! I suppose a lot of it does stem from when you first started supporting the team, and I can understand why some fans prefer blue and white stripes. What I'm struggling to understand is those fans who won't accept that there are those who might prefer to play in something other than blue and white stripes, or claim that 'it won't be Wednesday' if we do so. Our club has a glorious history, and blue and white stripes are part of that, but so are blue and white hoops, solid blue with white sleeves, blue and white halves, white with blue pinstripes, blue with a white middle panel, and now blue with white pinstripes. If our chairman wants to revert to one of our previous kits, I don't see how this can be construed as throwing away or disrespecting our history. Now if he wanted us to play in red and white... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTacoSWFC Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) Nothing scientific here but from my first post 82 +/- were left in total. 62+ 20- So works out about 75% of fans would like to see our stripes and 25% aren't fussed. Who have replied on this thread anyways. If my math is correct mind you... Edited April 14, 2017 by MrTacoSWFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Nothing scientific here but from my first post 82 +/- were left in total. 62+ 20- So works out about 75% of fans would like to see our stripes and 25% aren't fussed. Who have replied on this thread anyways. If my math is correct mind you... I think this would give skewed figures. A lot on here just defend anything the club does, & slate any perceived critism of the club. They are not for an all blue kit, just for whatever the club decide. They could be described as Sheep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Yeah - I think everyone's having the same issues with quotes and notifications. Somebody needs to put another shilling in the meter! I suppose a lot of it does stem from when you first started supporting the team, and I can understand why some fans prefer blue and white stripes. What I'm struggling to understand is those fans who won't accept that there are those who might prefer to play in something other than blue and white stripes, or claim that 'it won't be Wednesday' if we do so. Our club has a glorious history, and blue and white stripes are part of that, but so are blue and white hoops, solid blue with white sleeves, blue and white halves, white with blue pinstripes, blue with a white middle panel, and now blue with white pinstripes. If our chairman wants to revert to one of our previous kits, I don't see how this can be construed as throwing away or disrespecting our history. Now if he wanted us to play in red and white... Blue and white stripes aren't just "part"of our history in an equal measure with those other kits. Once the kit was established, after a few years of fannying around it was Sheffield Wednesday's identity. Bar an unpopular 60s experiment. I was speaking to a Barnsley fan yesterday who was astonished when I told him the stripes are gone again for next year. But that's Wednesday's kit was his feeling. Imagine the uproar if Sunderland switched to an Arsenal kit. I'm surprised we've just bent over but it obviously doesn't bother lots of people. Hey ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC1867 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) Protesting at chansiri now? Ffs hang your heads in shame. Know which sides your bread is buttered you disloyal and ungrateful slags. Edited April 14, 2017 by BC1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Blue and white stripes aren't just "part"of our history in an equal measure with those other kits. Once the kit was established, after a few years of fannying around it was Sheffield Wednesday's identity. Bar an unpopular 60s experiment. I was speaking to a Barnsley fan yesterday who was astonished when I told him the stripes are gone again for next year. But that's Wednesday's kit was his feeling. Imagine the uproar if Sunderland switched to an Arsenal kit. I'm surprised we've just bent over but it obviously doesn't bother lots of people. Hey ho. We've been too accepting of this. If DC changed our name to Chansiri FC, a section on OT would tell us that's it fine because :we changed our name in 1929 :chansiri owns the club :the football is better :names arent important. :& slate those resisting the change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 We've been too accepting of this. If DC changed our name to Chansiri FC, a section on OT would tell us that's it fine because :we changed our name in 1929 :chansiri owns the club :the football is better :names arent important. :& slate those resisting the change Social obedience and conformity is now at a level where people are more under the rule of their masters than cattle with nose rings. People get an anxiety attack in here at the merest hint of any criticism of the leadership. A sad reflection if the state of society in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Social obedience and conformity is now at a level where people are more under the rule of their masters than cattle with nose rings. People get an anxiety attack in here at the merest hint of any criticism of the leadership. A sad reflection if the state of society in my opinion. Either that or they don't mind the idea of a blue football shirt with white arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Social obedience and conformity is now at a level where people are more under the rule of their masters than cattle with nose rings. People get an anxiety attack in here at the merest hint of any criticism of the leadership. A sad reflection if the state of society in my opinion. They see any one specific criticism of DC (or CC) as an all out assault of every decision they've made. It another example of binary thinking, which plagues OT, but also makes it lively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel The Tree Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Yeah - I think everyone's having the same issues with quotes and notifications. Somebody needs to put another shilling in the meter! I suppose a lot of it does stem from when you first started supporting the team, and I can understand why some fans prefer blue and white stripes. What I'm struggling to understand is those fans who won't accept that there are those who might prefer to play in something other than blue and white stripes, or claim that 'it won't be Wednesday' if we do so. Our club has a glorious history, and blue and white stripes are part of that, but so are blue and white hoops, solid blue with white sleeves, blue and white halves, white with blue pinstripes, blue with a white middle panel, and now blue with white pinstripes. If our chairman wants to revert to one of our previous kits, I don't see how this can be construed as throwing away or disrespecting our history. Now if he wanted us to play in red and white... It comes back down to identity though This year especially, as we prepare to celebrate 150yrs of history and tradition How would you best identify those factors that BELONG to Sheffield Wednesday - the things we call OURS? The fans obviously, we're a constant(hopefully) - generation on generation Not the players, or staff, or owners, or directors - their efforts are appreciated, but they aren't the club, and their contributions might well be fleeting Me, I'd say our name, colours and badge - our stadium too of course, and that sense of pride I get whenever I share the experience with others Also a reputation neutrals might recognize, but that's about history and tradition again If someone were to locate our oldest surviving supporter and ask him the define the 'traditional' Wednesday kit, it would most likely match the example any neutral in the street might give if asked to describe the colours Wednesday play in at home - ie. Blue & White stripes Hoops etc might be part of our history but perhaps the choice had more to do availability of materials, or fashion Maybe all jerseys were hand-knitted back in the late-19th century, and those given the task of producing ours could only 'do' hoops Perhaps it's worth remembering that stripes were our official kit when we joined the Football League in 1892 and aside from a couple of aberrations it's been our chosen design ever since And besides, those fans who want to see us play in alternative designs - there are 2nd & 3rd choice kits available, and these days they're getting changed every season Plenty of scope there for experimentation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazaston Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) It's what's inside the shirts that count Edited April 14, 2017 by dazaston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 It comes back down to identity though This year especially, as we prepare to celebrate 150yrs of history and tradition How would you best identify those factors that BELONG to Sheffield Wednesday - the things we call OURS? The fans obviously, we're a constant(hopefully) - generation on generation Not the players, or staff, or owners, or directors - their efforts are appreciated, but they aren't the club, and their contributions might well be fleeting Me, I'd say our name, colours and badge - our stadium too of course, and that sense of pride I get whenever I share the experience with others Also a reputation neutrals might recognize, but that's about history and tradition again If someone were to locate our oldest surviving supporter and ask him the define the 'traditional' Wednesday kit, it would most likely match the example any neutral in the street might give if asked to describe the colours Wednesday play in at home - ie. Blue & White stripes Hoops etc might be part of our history but perhaps the choice had more to do availability of materials, or fashion Maybe all jerseys were hand-knitted back in the late-19th century, and those given the task of producing ours could only 'do' hoops Perhaps it's worth remembering that stripes were our official kit when we joined the Football League in 1892 and aside from a couple of aberrations it's been our chosen design ever since And besides, those fans who want to see us play in alternative designs - there are 2nd & 3rd choice kits available, and these days they're getting changed every season Plenty of scope there for experimentation I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree: you see a blue shirt with white sleeves as a problem; I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlsite Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I would be happy for us to play in a similar strip to the very first one recorded (blue and white hoops I think) but for our Anniversary season only. Afterwards Mr Chansiri, whilst I appreciate and thank you for all you have done so far for our club, please bring back our familiar BLUE AND WHITE STRIPES. This kit is synonymous with Sheffield Wednesday, its great to look back at old photographs and see some great players of our past in the famous blue and white stripes, a kit which is recognised as SWFC by all, including other teams and fans as well as the media. Some have said that it's only a shirt, but no, sorry, it's been our main identity over most years and our heritage, despite the fact that we have changed before in the past. I'm probably a bit old fashioned, but truly, I struggle to recognise us in any other colours. I know that sponsorship is key, but I'd like to see us play away in blue and white stripes as well. There's my vote ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Doesn't like the stripes. Doesn't like the badge. Doesn't like the stadium. Are we quite sure that Chansiri bought the right club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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