mozzy85 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I don't have a choice but to watch it. Having invested heart and soul into the club. And maybe I , and others, are seemingly irrational in our irritation. But there is no rationality to watching Wednesday. There is no rationality in football full stop. It's "just a game". And it truly is just a game. Even I know that. There is probably no rationality in me being so....so...upset about something which is to many nothing more than an item of clothing. But I am bothered, because rationale doesn't come into it. If it did, I wouldn't be bothered about kit changes. I wouldn't be bothered about our name. Our reputation. Our identity. But I am. And It is ingrained in me , as tradition is, of watching those teams, those players who provide the rich tapestry that is our history, those kits, those striped shirts and the men who wore them are woven into my very character as a human being , because if they were not...I wouldn't be the person I am. It is , for me at any rate, impossible not to be attached to an images of those players, in those kits. It is that sense of enshrined identity and sense of belonging. No doubt what a psychologist would even go as far as to call tribalism. If I didn't care about those stripes. About that kit. About the Archibald Leach metal work on the Southstand roof. If i Wasn't proud of the biggest still serving cantilever stand in The football League ....then I would be able to accept it. And if I could accept my lifetimes love, and passion, the imagery , the mental and physical maps of my own memory being changed , then I would be able to walk away. *NB - I suspect you are quite right by the way, and I agree totally. They will no doubt sell excellently and in vast quantities.... in this consumerist, faddish age we live in. Nailed it. Especially that last sentence people will by it for the sake of buying it. I won't because I don't want to encourage the chairman to carry on with these kits. If you really don't want the shirts to change to a non-stripe kit then don't buy them, vote with your wallet. If I had kids and they asked for it I'd say no and buy them the away or third choice one. For me wednesday should always be in stripes and like Lord Snooty said that is ingrained in me, no it's not rational but hey that's what I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daftpenguin Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 We came very close though. The shirts and shorts got us into the top six. One subtle adjustment to last years kit in the summer and we'd probably be above Brighton now.... Can't argue with that, that's science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I don't have a choice but to watch it. Having invested heart and soul into the club. And maybe I , and others, are seemingly irrational in our irritation. But there is no rationality to watching Wednesday. There is no rationality in football full stop. It's "just a game". And it truly is just a game. Even I know that. There is probably no rationality in me being so....so...upset about something which is to many nothing more than an item of clothing. But I am bothered, because rationale doesn't come into it. If it did, I wouldn't be bothered about kit changes. I wouldn't be bothered about our name. Our reputation. Our identity. But I am. And It is ingrained in me , as tradition is, of watching those teams, those players who provide the rich tapestry that is our history, those kits, those striped shirts and the men who wore them are woven into my very character as a human being , because if they were not...I wouldn't be the person I am. It is , for me at any rate, impossible not to be attached to an images of those players, in those kits. It is that sense of enshrined identity and sense of belonging. No doubt what a psychologist would even go as far as to call tribalism. If I didn't care about those stripes. About that kit. About the Archibald Leach metal work on the Southstand roof. If i Wasn't proud of the biggest still serving cantilever stand in The football League ....then I would be able to accept it. And if I could accept my lifetimes love, and passion, the imagery , the mental and physical maps of my own memory being changed , then I would be able to walk away. *NB - I suspect you are quite right by the way, and I agree totally. They will no doubt sell excellently and in vast quantities.... in this consumerist, faddish age we live in. Nailed it. It's irrational but what's rational about being Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Nailed it. It's irrational but what's rational about being Phone died. its irrational but what's rational about being a football fan in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Said it before It's called creep - change a little bit then let people get used to it - then change it some more - and on and on etc until you are miles from the start point I'm from an older generation of fan that could distinctly trace the umbilical cord linking back to the founders of the club - and i'm very much a traditionalist But without history and tradition then the club is just a football playing entity like any other So the owner doesn't like stripes and regardless that is our overwhelmongly traditional kit it's being sidelined - what if he doesn't like "Wednesday" - the day or the name? Now, i ow the hysterical fannies will be leating that it's nothing like just changing the emphasis of the blue kit - but we have seen lots of revious with owners who started out as Gods then became as villianous as any character in the history of their clubs - Hull, Cardiff, Birmingham, Forest But we're going to the premier league! Again, if premier league football is the be all and end all then maybe Wednesday is not the club for you And when/if we get there? Don't kid yourlselves we're gonna compete - we'll try to survive along with a dozen other clubs and hope we can become a Stoke of West Brom - the owner will lap it up with circa £150m pouring in - but the fans soon get fed up especially when everything they do becomes very expensive and meanwhile the players they pay to watch are on yearly salaries that some won't earn in a lifetime So, how does this relate to the shirts? Well, as i said, creep I cant hate the blue Arsenal shirt - it was the first kit that i regularly watched as a kid - and although historically they were a poor team - those players were heroes to me I think it's an insult however that it will be our anniversary shirt - the shirt synonymous with one of worst ever periods - whiles the much more prevalent and recognised stripes consigned to history - perhaps for ever? Creep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Phone died. its irrational but what's rational about being a football fan in the first place? Thought the nihilist deadphone battery original worked as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Thought the nihilist deadphone battery original worked as well! I'm not quite as profound as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoOkOut Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Said it before It's called creep - change a little bit then let people get used to it - then change it some more - and on and on etc until you are miles from the start point I'm from an older generation of fan that could distinctly trace the umbilical cord linking back to the founders of the club - and i'm very much a traditionalist But without history and tradition then the club is just a football playing entity like any other So the owner doesn't like stripes and regardless that is our overwhelmongly traditional kit it's being sidelined - what if he doesn't like "Wednesday" - the day or the name? Now, i ow the hysterical fannies will be leating that it's nothing like just changing the emphasis of the blue kit - but we have seen lots of revious with owners who started out as Gods then became as villianous as any character in the history of their clubs - Hull, Cardiff, Birmingham, Forest But we're going to the premier league! Again, if premier league football is the be all and end all then maybe Wednesday is not the club for you And when/if we get there? Don't kid yourlselves we're gonna compete - we'll try to survive along with a dozen other clubs and hope we can become a Stoke of West Brom - the owner will lap it up with circa £150m pouring in - but the fans soon get fed up especially when everything they do becomes very expensive and meanwhile the players they pay to watch are on yearly salaries that some won't earn in a lifetime So, how does this relate to the shirts? Well, as i said, creep I cant hate the blue Arsenal shirt - it was the first kit that i regularly watched as a kid - and although historically they were a poor team - those players were heroes to me I think it's an insult however that it will be our anniversary shirt - the shirt synonymous with one of worst ever periods - whiles the much more prevalent and recognised stripes consigned to history - perhaps for ever? Creep Creepy post that pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 This will be (though I can never promise) my last post about this tonight. But it's a question of identity I have pulled here kits from clubs (British) at random stages of their history. And I do genuinely mean at random. But, with the badges and sponsors taken off. I'll bet that most people whatever their age, generation etc etc can still name at least 18/21 them . Because they will be able to recognise the imagery. They will be able to recognise the identity those clubs have built for themselves even though suppliers change, if materials change, sponsors change, fashions and stylings change. The central core imagery is still the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzy85 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 This will be (though I can never promise) my last post about this tonight. But it's a question of identity I have pulled here kits from clubs (British) at random stages of their history. And I do genuinely mean at random. But, with the badges and sponsors taken off. I'll bet that most people whatever their age, generation etc etc can still name at least 18/21 them . Because they will be able to recognise the imagery. They will be able to recognise the identity those clubs have built for themselves even though suppliers change, if materials change, sponsors change, fashions and stylings change. The central core imagery is still the same. Bottom, third from right....Sheffield Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Been told that apparently DC now wants to divert the Don as he believes running water is bad luck These superstitions are getting out of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Been told that apparently DC now wants to divert the Don as he believes running water is bad luck These superstitions are getting out of control. Does this mean we can stop the habit of having the sprinklers on before kick off, even when it's raining?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 This will be (though I can never promise) my last post about this tonight. But it's a question of identity I have pulled here kits from clubs (British) at random stages of their history. And I do genuinely mean at random. But, with the badges and sponsors taken off. I'll bet that most people whatever their age, generation etc etc can still name at least 18/21 them . Because they will be able to recognise the imagery. They will be able to recognise the identity those clubs have built for themselves even though suppliers change, if materials change, sponsors change, fashions and stylings change. The central core imagery is still the same. Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 This will be (though I can never promise) my last post about this tonight. But it's a question of identity I have pulled here kits from clubs (British) at random stages of their history. And I do genuinely mean at random. But, with the badges and sponsors taken off. I'll bet that most people whatever their age, generation etc etc can still name at least 18/21 them . Because they will be able to recognise the imagery. They will be able to recognise the identity those clubs have built for themselves even though suppliers change, if materials change, sponsors change, fashions and stylings change. The central core imagery is still the same. I can name nearly all those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoOkOut Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Just been told DC wants to manage the team with his son as assistant Creep... Also wants us to move to where the cooling towers was in Rotherham Creep... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Absolutely. I can name nearly all those! Exactly chaps. Yet some of those pulled out are from last year. And some are over 100 years old. ISTANTLY RECOGNISABLE IDENTITY Or what is probably 'The Brand' these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Does anyone challenge Mr Chansiri at the steering group? Everyone I talk to wants the stripes back. What's the point of the steering group if they're not listened to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Does anyone challenge Mr Chansiri at the steering group? Everyone I talk to wants the stripes back. What's the point of the steering group if they're not listened to? Because it's less of a steering and more of listen to what's going to happen group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoOkOut Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Does anyone challenge Mr Chansiri at the steering group? Everyone I talk to wants the stripes back. What's the point of the steering group if they're not listened to? DC said we can come and listen to his ideas but anyone questioning his control be get picked up by the stewards and taken away . I've got two pictures of DC in every room in my house . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 This will be (though I can never promise) my last post about this tonight. But it's a question of identity I have pulled here kits from clubs (British) at random stages of their history. And I do genuinely mean at random. But, with the badges and sponsors taken off. I'll bet that most people whatever their age, generation etc etc can still name at least 18/21 them . Because they will be able to recognise the imagery. They will be able to recognise the identity those clubs have built for themselves even though suppliers change, if materials change, sponsors change, fashions and stylings change. The central core imagery is still the same. Sadly he doesn't give a bobbar because he doesn't like stripes. That's spoilt rich kids for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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