Doctor John Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Bodhidharma said: He was awful in the first half. Second half was ok. The ref didn't lose us the game though. That was us. Never seen owt like that first 20 minutes. Couldn't even string one pass together. Yep, the ref was poor, but Brentford were better than us in the first half when we had no tempo, lacked creativity and tenacity (Forestieri aside), and gave away two sloppy goals. We didn't get going 'til the last half hour - why? This must be tactical cos it happens too often when we play at home; we start slow and cagey and then try and blow away the opposition in the last third of the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owltopcat Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 @Owlstalk I actually beg to differ, while I'm not saying it was wholly the refs fault that was a pen but then they head to our half and get given a free kick for exactly the same offence????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Made me laugh when Carlos was pointing out to the 4th official that the ref was blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroswfc Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Shouldn't always be judged on players past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendoddsdadsdogsdead Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Utter dross as a decision maker. Got no help from his assistants. Hesitant and pedantic and got the major decisions badly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 36 minutes ago, vulva said: Wasn't actually that bad, but he bore the frustration of 25,000 fans who were watching another abject home performance. The FF penalty is one of those decisions that goes against FF because of his reputation for diving. Guess what, refs talk to each other, and they will have certain players cards marked. FF falls firmly into that category. Played well 2nd half, and that game could easily have finished 3-3. Thought Sasso and Abdi played well, with FF our MOTM. Best player on the pitch, by a country mile, was Jota. I'd also be interested in taking Egan next summer as well. Oh come on FFS, he was truly inept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 The corner that preceded their second....Should have been a goal kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Owl Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Ref was poor for both sides. Thought it was a pen but FF deserved to get booked as he got the man well before he got the ball. Can't blame the ref for the result, schoolboy marking for both goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling Wolfe Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Referee was the worst I have seen at Hillsborough for a long time, and that's saying something. How we never got at least one penalty defies belief, every time their player went down he blew, the linesman on the North was useless, looked scared to raise his flag until the ref blew. The corner for their second goal was a goal kick, just annoying how we get these incompetent bafoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling Wolfe Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 So are you saying the ref was good then, because he wasn't, you already admitted it was a goal kick and they score from the corner given. Admittedly we should be defending set pieces but come on, the ref was a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) Been going to matches since 1990. In that time I can only remember one refereeing performance to rival that shambles I saw tonight. We weren't that bad after the first fifteen minutes or so. On a different night we would have won that 4-2. But that refereeing display was just absurd. Edit - not that bad apart from fracking up the marking on two set pieces I mean. Edited February 21, 2017 by i used to be sc_owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 1 minute ago, S_W_F_C said: Was that the one against Blackburn who didn't spot the ball over the line or when they gave handball for a perfectly good goal. Pathetic blaming the ref. Start looking in a mirror I don't understand what you're trying to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Hahahahaha how was he not that bad ? Let me say ff pen is generally given but to give the free kick for their first goal? And then the 'corner' for the second is criminal 3 decisions completely against us in which at least 2 maybe 3 should have gone for us! Massive moments . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Just now, S_W_F_C said: Last week go and ask a Blackburn fan what they thought of the ref, nobody complained then. Yet tonight it's all the refs fault. Do me a favour it was our own inadequacy that cost us. Blaming the ref is just like behaving like a spilt brat. You do realise that it's possible to criticise the ref and acknowledge we were beaten? We weren't that bad apart from not defending two set pieces. We hammered them in the second half. The scoreline tonight did not reflect the balance of play. On another night we would have scored another three or four goals. The ref did contribute to the game. I don't get where you're coming from to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor John Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Ref had a poor first half, especially his abject failure to award us a pen. Worse still, he seemed to lose confidence in his own decision-making abilities after we conceded the first goal - I sense he realised that he shouldn't have awarded Brentford the free-kick that led to that goal. Once a ref 'loses it' in this way, it creates a bad situation for him, players and crowd alike - he becomes the centre of attention and you fear for what he will decide and do next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 48 minutes ago, vulva said: This is an adult debate. Unless you've got anything constructive to add, get to bed. Really hope he doesn`t `wet the bed` he is of a certain age! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mutha Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, vulva said: Wasn't actually that bad, but he bore the frustration of 25,000 fans who were watching another abject home performance. The FF penalty is one of those decisions that goes against FF because of his reputation for diving. Guess what, refs talk to each other, and they will have certain players cards marked. FF falls firmly into that category. Played well 2nd half, and that game could easily have finished 3-3. Thought Sasso and Abdi played well, with FF our MOTM. Best player on the pitch, by a country mile, was Jota. I'd also be interested in taking Egan next summer as well. Just goes to show..... I disagree with almost everything you've written there apart from the bit about sasso and abdi. Jota... Best player...... By a country mile! Incredible... Thought he was completely unremarkable apart from the fact that he was a total cat and pulled out of any challenge that was 50-50. Just goes to show, different strokes, different folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash60s Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 54 minutes ago, vulva said: Bingo. Players reactions usually tell the story. and that's what's worrying me they better get their reactions in place v. Weeds that is for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash60s Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 off kilter there for a min (cough) ref tonight was consistently irritating, particularly 1st half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, vulva said: Wasn't actually that bad, but he bore the frustration of 25,000 fans who were watching another abject home performance. The FF penalty is one of those decisions that goes against FF because of his reputation for diving. Guess what, refs talk to each other, and they will have certain players cards marked. FF falls firmly into that category. Played well 2nd half, and that game could easily have finished 3-3. Thought Sasso and Abdi played well, with FF our MOTM. Best player on the pitch, by a country mile, was Jota. I'd also be interested in taking Egan next summer as well. Seen it on Sky Vulva and the conclusion is, you are talking like a Vulva ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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