WayneTheOwl Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 At the moment I would say he is a waste of a few million not a waste of money, the price tag is off putting based on what we have seen BUT that is the premium for a young English player signed from a PL club. He has show good quality in patches and absolute dog turd in others. IF we are still in the Championship next season I feel that he will have a storming season and justify the price tag. If we are in the PL I don't think we will see him anywhere near the starting 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corneliusreeve Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, SiJ said: Yeah...let's slag off one of our players. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benni8 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 He is joint 2nd with assists this season with Forestieri. He is being played in 2 different positions and has done so more than capably. I have been to most away games this year and at times reach has been our only outlet with flashes of brilliance/skill every so often. People who watch football just so they can brag about who won, who cost more, who's ground is the biggest, are generally the sort of "fans" that if he hasnt scored from 30 yards and done 15 rabonas every match then he is rubbish and a waste of money. He is a very good left sided player than due to tactics and formations is sometimes played in a way that limits his attacking abilities but just like at preston, he gets his head down and just gets on with it. I am very happy he is here, just like I was with brunt (and we know how much stick he got from the same numpties who are now having a pop at reach). We are not real madrid, we are in the second tier of english football, that means you have decent players who sometimes turn it on, and sometimes dont.... If they did, they wouldn't be here. Its all part and parcel of this league. Let the lad grow, support him, and you might be surprised that he might improve to become a brilliant asset for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Yes Boro have had our pants down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) Reach is quality. It's not just about tekkers. It's about character. Reach has this in spades, he also has intelligence, not to mention great workrate and movement. Misplaced passes can happen when the team is not clicking. Edited February 8, 2017 by Bodhidharma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Totleyowl1 said: He constantly loses the ball and never beats a defender. Seems to lack confidence and strength. Always letting other players make the cross or win the ball back. I've never seen him impose himself or out do the other team in defence or attack. For £5 million I think Middlesbrough are laughing at us. We have a quality player in macca and he should be playing instead of reach. He was the worst player at Wigan and he definitely stood out as a liability and Wigan pushed him around. He's young and might come true but as we're hopping for promotion can we really give him the time. Wow; your performance appraisals must be a great inspiration to your staff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAOWL267 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 No. I doubt we have paid £5m up front so the full amount will only be paid upon him fullfilling his undoubted potential ability. He will continue to improve and make a contribution as the season unfolds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_D Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 a 'No' from me. I think he does enough to keep his place and will get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I couldn't understand the transfer. Preston wanted him and were prepared to pay £1m for his services following an impressive loan spell. Then with seemingly no completion for his services, we come along offering five times that. As someone who's been critical of him, it's safe to say, he hasn't set the place alight, but I'm hopeful that there's more to come from him. So far, he's looked pretty ordinary, but maybe that's because he's been stifled by Carlos's tactics. Hopefully he'll have a better second half to the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Totleyowl1 said: He constantly loses the ball and never beats a defender. Seems to lack confidence and strength. Always letting other players make the cross or win the ball back. I've never seen him impose himself or out do the other team in defence or attack. For £5 million I think Middlesbrough are laughing at us. We have a quality player in macca and he should be playing instead of reach. He was the worst player at Wigan and he definitely stood out as a liability and Wigan pushed him around. He's young and might come true but as we're hopping for promotion can we really give him the time. I feel a massive negging on its way . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercian Owl Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Not bad for your first post.....17 negs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlsmad Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Oh for the love of god, stop slagging the players off..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Totleyowl1 said: He constantly loses the ball and never beats a defender. Seems to lack confidence and strength. Always letting other players make the cross or win the ball back. I've never seen him impose himself or out do the other team in defence or attack. For £5 million I think Middlesbrough are laughing at us. We have a quality player in macca and he should be playing instead of reach. He was the worst player at Wigan and he definitely stood out as a liability and Wigan pushed him around. He's young and might come true but as we're hopping for promotion can we really give him the time. Well if that's your first post you're off to a flyer! Just what we need, another totally negative poster dressing up a hatchet job as lively debate and opinion. Whats your next offering going to be? "Should we have hounded the traitor Forestieti out of the club"? In this last few days where we had one of the most exciting signings in recent memory, currently sit sixth in the league, this is your only contribution. How thoroughly depressing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Totleyowl1 said: He constantly loses the ball and never beats a defender. Seems to lack confidence and strength. Always letting other players make the cross or win the ball back. I've never seen him impose himself or out do the other team in defence or attack. For £5 million I think Middlesbrough are laughing at us. We have a quality player in macca and he should be playing instead of reach. He was the worst player at Wigan and he definitely stood out as a liability and Wigan pushed him around. He's young and might come true but as we're hopping for promotion can we really give him the time. Worst player at Wigan !!!! No way , he may be a bit of a letdown so far but is young and I see a good player there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatricowl Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 A left footed player who can play on either wing, left full back, midfield or up front. these type of players are few and far between. Silly opening post IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 36 minutes ago, geriatricowl said: A left footed player who can play on either wing, left full back, midfield or up front. these type of players are few and far between. Silly opening post IMO. A utility player, sounds perfect for the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandOwl Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 If we'd picked him up for £500,000 or so I don't think anyone would have a problem but for £5 million, or whatever it was, I don't think we've got value for money at all. He's a steady player but nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 If Carlos does shift Forestieri out to the left, will Reach even play? Can't see him dislodging Wallace on the right, not on recent form anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 50 minutes ago, gurujuan said: I couldn't understand the transfer. Preston wanted him and were prepared to pay £1m for his services following an impressive loan spell. Then with seemingly no completion for his services, we come along offering five times that. As someone who's been critical of him, it's safe to say, he hasn't set the place alight, but I'm hopeful that there's more to come from him. So far, he's looked pretty ordinary, but maybe that's because he's been stifled by Carlos's tactics. Hopefully he'll have a better second half to the season I am pretty sure we didn't come in and say here, here's 5 million. We probably started off around the million mark aswell. But the fact that Boro pushed us to around 5 million show just how much they rated him and we wanted him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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