asteener1867 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 It isn't a thread simply about the harrowing events of '89, but that comes into the equation, Hillsborough, in my opinion, is a unique sort of place when it comes to football, the history, the tragedy, and the sheer ups and downs of following the side that plays there. I often wonder if players are prepared for it, and under perform because of it. I bet, the first place newly signed players look at... is the Leppings lane, I bet the first thing fans of other clubs look at when they first come to Hillsborough...is the leppings lane. Its a legacy left by circumstances that, at the time were out of control, but the legacy simply hangs over the place, like a shroud. As a Wednesday fan, the last thing I would want to do is move from Hillsborough, I have learned to carry whatever historical burden there is to carry about the place, secure in the fact that the burden was laid on the place by a myriad of events that culminated here, not that simply "occurred" here. It leaves me to wonder whether the whole place has created an atmosphere that is hard to dispell, for players, for Wednesday fans, for fans of other clubs, I often wonder if Sheffield Wednesday would have been taken over sooner, if we had not "Played at Hillsborough"..If Sheffield Wednesday would be where we, as Owls fans think we should be if we had not "Played as Hillsborough" After going through all these thoughts..I simply say "We are Sheffield Wednesday.."We play at Hillsborough"...and I hope we always "Play at Hillsborough" You can't change the past and its time to look to the future, the future is "Playing at Hillsborough".. anyone else got any thoughts on the subject.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flo Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 It is the best football stadium in England. Probably also the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Loved the place til the flask ban. No flasks. No future I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Just now, Costello 77 said: Loved the place til the flask ban. No flasks. No future I'm afraid. Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madfan Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Food for thought there Asteener. you sum it up well. Thing is if Mr Chansiri wants to build us a new stadium - he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Well said Asteener. My thoughts/hopes entirely ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Think we have two choices, rebuild, a bit at a time. Update the area around Hillsborough at the same time. Or start again elsewhere. Personally, I'm not sure which I prefer. What I do know is that Hillsborough is knackered and outdated and that keeps getting hammered by those at SAG. Something has to change. Edited January 11, 2017 by Maddogbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: Loved the place til the flask ban. No flasks. No future I'm afraid. Can't take umbrella's in as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s110wl Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 you make an interesting point about what first comes to mind for away fans/plays/staff when they visit Hillsborough. For me, due to my age (26), I'm not really sure I was even aware of the disaster until I was about 10 - and by that point I was already accustomed to visiting the ground and had already fallen in love. I'd rather lose a couple of toes than move ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Just now, Owling said: Can't take umbrella's in as well. You can't drink rum and hot chocolate out of an umbrella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I appreciate people died and I have full respect for the dead, but how many times does this need dragging up? Valley Parade barely gets a mention, Heysel never happened, there was also a disaster at Ibrox don't you know? But we're the only one that has to demolish the ground/ move away and keep letting folk rake it up time and time again. It's time we just stopped taking a beating over it. RIP 96 http://www.stadiumguide.com/timelines/stadium-disasters/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Maddogbob said: Think we have two choices, rebuild, a bit at a time. Update the area around Hillsborough at the same time. Or start again elsewhere. Personally, I'm not sure which I prefer. What I do know is that Hillsborough is knackered and outdated and that keeps getting hammered by those at SAG. Something has to change. I honestly don't see the "outdated" argument...I mean it might just be me, but I simply want somewhere to watch Wednesday, If its bouncin' and getting thrown about on a terrace, or sat . I mean what do you want?, f.ookin' waitress service?, some sort of sanitised WIFI bowl where you can check stocks an' shares...toilets where some f.ooker apologises when he fa*ts? Folk complaining cos they can still see a faded "Presto" sign on the West...I mean what the f.ook do you go for if you are just looking at the decor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasthagotanycheese Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Not been the same since they took away the North Stand cushions. Once I didnt have anything to fling at Chris Morris the magic was gone for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 minute ago, asteener1867 said: I honestly don't see the "outdated" argument...I mean it might just be me, but I simply want somewhere to watch Wednesday, If its bouncin' and getting thrown about on a terrace, or sat . I mean what do you want?, f.ookin' waitress service?, some sort of sanitised WIFI bowl where you can check stocks an' shares...toilets where some f.ooker apologises when he fa*ts? Folk complaining cos they can still see a faded "Presto" sign on the West...I mean what the f.ook do you go for if you are just looking at the decor? I can see parts of it being listed as grounds like ours become rarer. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike312 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: Loved the place til the flask ban. No flasks. No future I'm afraid. I know that dingles were taking flasks in without problems the other week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieswfc Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Big Ron's Sovereign said: I appreciate people died and I have full respect for the dead, but how many times does this need dragging up? Valley Parade barely gets a mention, Heysel never happened, there was also a disaster at Ibrox don't you know? But we're the only one that has to demolish the ground/ move away and keep letting folk rake it up time and time again. It's time we just stopped taking a beating over it. RIP 96 http://www.stadiumguide.com/timelines/stadium-disasters/ My thoughts exactly but put more tactful than I ever could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, hasthagotanycheese said: Not been the same since they took away the North Stand cushions. Once I didnt have anything to fling at Chris Morris the magic was gone for me. Mate..If you threw a "North stand cushion" at Chris Morris, you had nicked it from a museum..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 minute ago, asteener1867 said: Mate..If you threw a "North stand cushion" at Chris Morris, you had nicked it from a museum..lol Really? How long ago did they stop using cushions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Holmes said: Really? How long ago did they stop using cushions? I reckon way before Morris mate..but as a resident on the Kop from 1960 odd...I stand to be corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Holmes said: Really? How long ago did they stop using cushions? Pressman was getting a few a week out up his jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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