areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Just now, Cosmo said: A cardboard cut out of Danny Wilson would get this squad in the top 6. Does that mean that Derby, Norwich and Villa's managers are all worse than a cardboard cutout of Danny Wilson? Because their squads are at least as good as ours and none of them are in the top six as things stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhgate Owl Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Carlos isn't the best manager he Is a decent coach and good talker off the pitch.his transfers,formations and tactics are questionable . I think anyone except Irvine who we've had would have got this team comfortably in the top 6. yes where in the top 6 atm but the way we are playing this season .we will be midtable by march Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 The most pathetic fans are the fans that incessantly complain about other fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Does that mean that Derby, Norwich and Villa's managers are all worse than a cardboard cutout of Danny Wilson? Yes. They're also under performing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Does that mean that Derby, Norwich and Villa's managers are all worse than a cardboard cutout of Danny Wilson? Because their squads are at least as good as ours and none of them are in the top six as things stand. Two of them changed manager and are now shooting up the league. One of them is sticking with their manager and dropping like a stone. Just saying'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Does that mean that Derby, Norwich and Villa's managers are all worse than a cardboard cutout of Danny Wilson? Because their squads are at least as good as ours and none of them are in the top six as things stand. Never mind Cardboard Cutouts of DW,We've got quite a few cardboard cutout OT's on here judging by some of the Bobbah that's been posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Carlos has had the best squad and most investment I can remember in my lifetime. It's only natural questions are asked when we seem to stop progressing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Whilst the sentiment of the OP is understandable, are these pathetic fans the ones who pay a fortune to watch us home and away and have committed in some cases to a 3 year season ticket. Pathetic isn't the right choice of words to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well endowed owl Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 CCs clubs - have a look at the table to all those fans who thinks he's a good coach, this guys has ants in his pants or does not want to hang around, this is not the sign of a good coach, i have not looked into the reasons for him leaving these clubs, but a flash in the pan manager is the way i see it Current team Sheffield Wednesday (head coach) Youth career 1978–1983 Braga Senior career* Years Team Apps (Gls) 1983–1985 Braga 7 (0) 1985–1986 Chaves 28 (0) 1986–1988 Braga 60 (1) 1988–1989 Porto 1 (0) 1989–1990 Beira-Mar 23 (0) 1990–1992 Braga 33 (0) 1992–1993 Tirsense 14 (0) 1993–1995 Chaves 44 (3) 1995–1999 Espinho 49 (0) Total 259 (4) National team 1985–1987 Portugal U21 9 (0) Teams managed 1998–1999 Espinho 1999–2000 Freamunde 2000 Vizela 2000–2001 Aves 2001–2002 Leixões 2003–2004 Vitória Setúbal 2004–2005 Belenenses 2006 Braga 2006 Beira-Mar 2007–2008 Vitória Setúbal 2008 Asteras Tripoli 2009 Marítimo 2009–2010 Sporting CP 2011–2012 Beşiktaş 2012 İstanbul BB 2015– Sheffield Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 It's a good point by the OP. But if we play like we have been we won't be going up next season either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukestheman82 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, well endowed owl said: CCs clubs - have a look at the table to all those fans who thinks he's a good coach, this guys has ants in his pants or does not want to hang around, this is not the sign of a good coach, i have not looked into the reasons for him leaving these clubs, but a flash in the pan manager is the way i see it Current team Sheffield Wednesday (head coach) Youth career 1978–1983 Braga Senior career* Years Team Apps (Gls) 1983–1985 Braga 7 (0) 1985–1986 Chaves 28 (0) 1986–1988 Braga 60 (1) 1988–1989 Porto 1 (0) 1989–1990 Beira-Mar 23 (0) 1990–1992 Braga 33 (0) 1992–1993 Tirsense 14 (0) 1993–1995 Chaves 44 (3) 1995–1999 Espinho 49 (0) Total 259 (4) National team 1985–1987 Portugal U21 9 (0) Teams managed 1998–1999 Espinho 1999–2000 Freamunde 2000 Vizela 2000–2001 Aves 2001–2002 Leixões 2003–2004 Vitória Setúbal 2004–2005 Belenenses 2006 Braga 2006 Beira-Mar 2007–2008 Vitória Setúbal 2008 Asteras Tripoli 2009 Marítimo 2009–2010 Sporting CP 2011–2012 Beşiktaş 2012 İstanbul BB 2015– Sheffield Wednesday Perhaps it's because his philosophy works well when the opposition doesn't know what to expect (first season) and then once the opposition work the philosophy out and plan a fails (second season) his charm and charisma wear thin? Or that could be total bu11$hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 20 minutes ago, well endowed owl said: CCs clubs - have a look at the table to all those fans who thinks he's a good coach, this guys has ants in his pants or does not want to hang around, this is not the sign of a good coach, i have not looked into the reasons for him leaving these clubs, but a flash in the pan manager is the way i see it Current team Sheffield Wednesday (head coach) Youth career 1978–1983 Braga Senior career* Years Team Apps (Gls) 1983–1985 Braga 7 (0) 1985–1986 Chaves 28 (0) 1986–1988 Braga 60 (1) 1988–1989 Porto 1 (0) 1989–1990 Beira-Mar 23 (0) 1990–1992 Braga 33 (0) 1992–1993 Tirsense 14 (0) 1993–1995 Chaves 44 (3) 1995–1999 Espinho 49 (0) Total 259 (4) National team 1985–1987 Portugal U21 9 (0) Teams managed 1998–1999 Espinho 1999–2000 Freamunde 2000 Vizela 2000–2001 Aves 2001–2002 Leixões 2003–2004 Vitória Setúbal 2004–2005 Belenenses 2006 Braga 2006 Beira-Mar 2007–2008 Vitória Setúbal 2008 Asteras Tripoli 2009 Marítimo 2009–2010 Sporting CP 2011–2012 Beşiktaş 2012 İstanbul BB 2015– Sheffield Wednesday So many jobs lasted a year or less. Quite bizarre really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxondale Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 If the fans are starting to worry and panic, I think the owner will be as well. Don't be surprised if he pulls that trigger if performances don't improve soon. He made it clear from the outset that he wanted entertaining, attacking football. We haven't even come close to that this season as of yet and time is not on our side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1867Heaven Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, iliveinthenow said: Listen up..... Chansiri isnt going anywhere! If we dont make it this season, then we try again next season. Get a grip! There is no panic going on at S6. Carlos is the best manager we have had since the 90's. Who said chansiri is off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flo Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 In Europe they pretty much change manager every two weeks in Turkey Portugal and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobster01 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, iliveinthenow said: Listen up..... Chansiri isnt going anywhere! If we dont make it this season, then we try again next season. Get a grip! There is no panic going on at S6. Carlos is the best manager we have had since the 90's. I agree with everything but your last sentence. Carlos has got the best results since the 1990s but also has been the only manager to have money to spend on the team. Most of the managers we have had in this time throne would have done just as good a job with the money provided. I still have total faith in Carlos though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 41 minutes ago, i used to be sc_owl said: Two of them changed manager and are now shooting up the league. One of them is sticking with their manager and dropping like a stone. Just saying'... And we seem to be taking a third route: sticking by our manager and averaging two points a game over our past nine matches, and holding sixth position in a competitive league. It's a funny old game, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 44 minutes ago, Cosmo said: Yes. They're also under performing. Derby thought they were underperforming under Paul Clement, so they sacked him when they were fifth in the league. Nigel Pearson was their next permanent manager. He left them 20th in the league. The grass isn't always greener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: And we seem to be taking a third route: sticking by our manager and averaging two points a game over our past nine matches, and holding sixth position in a competitive league. It's a funny old game, eh? 2 points per game over 9 games. 1 point per game over last two games. How many other ways can we spin the stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 minute ago, i used to be sc_owl said: 2 points per game over 9 games. 1 point per game over last two games. How many other ways can we spin the stats? I take your point. Bottom line: we're sixth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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