Holmowl Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 2 hours ago, zzmdu said: I'm not sure Hooper coming back, will affects Joaos time. Glad to have Hooper back, but can see him struggling to get back in the side. Carlos isn't going to put ff wide or/and drop reach to left back or the bench. How would you slot Hooper back in? I would always partner Hooper and Fletch, so FF and Reach would be on the wing. If Pudil is not doing it I would play Wallace right and FF left, with Reach LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentwalker Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 he needs a run of games. If we can get another striker in on loan in Jan i'd try and loan him out then see what he's like at the start of next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike1867 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Tick tock, tick tock.... I said if he'd not contributed significantly by January. It's not his lack of goals that worries me. It's his head, he just doesn't seem to play with confidence or any arrogance. He has great attributes. He came on last night and whether he was asked to do a job or not, his body language is all wrong. I agree with what someone said about Big Dave, he came on and his body language said he understood perfectly what his job was, even for a few minutes. You can see the relationship he has with the rest of the squad. They want him coming on to help see the game out. Joao, whether it's confidence, sulking or lack of mental strength, just doesn't seem right to me. We play in the here and now. He's obviously a nice enough lad, but I don't want him to come good in two months. We are much closer to the top two than I would have imagined, it'll be interesting to see if Newcastle miss Shelvey a bit more than they thought. Still 4 games without him. With players going to African Nations etc, one bad month could see them relatively struggle. If Joao can be improved on, then we have to take the opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 50 minutes ago, Holmowl said: I would always partner Hooper and Fletch, so FF and Reach would be on the wing. If Pudil is not doing it I would play Wallace right and FF left, with Reach LB. Ff & Reach play left wing, which one would you switch, in order to get Hooper back in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 14 hours ago, Manila_Owl said: Get rid. He's not good enough. Three wins and three garbage performances. He's had a 'run' of three games and shown nothing. Absolutely nothing. If he can't score in this team then what chance has he got. You should not stand still even when winning, we need to start by replacing him. Been saying it since he came back...simply doesn't understand the physical or technical side of the championship!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 So he is tall, fast and a handful but he can't shoot very well. That to me seems to be a problem for a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 17 hours ago, Manila_Owl said: Get rid. He's not good enough. Three wins and three garbage performances. He's had a 'run' of three games and shown nothing. Absolutely nothing. If he can't score in this team then what chance has he got. You should not stand still even when winning, we need to start by replacing him. totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 3 hours ago, zzmdu said: Ff & Reach play left wing, which one would you switch, in order to get Hooper back in? Either or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 He's had a run..... ........of three games...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelman Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I'd be interested to see what people who were actually at the game think about his contribution when he came on. For me watching on TV he looked disinterested, didn't press the ball and when he was in posession he gave it away. It was like being down to 10 men compared with Forestieri's evident workrate. That said, I wasn't there but I'd be interested in anyone who was there confirming if this was the case or not? My personal opinion is get rid. If he was going to set English football on fire he would have done so by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Carlos rated him, that's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Copthorneowl Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Joao only came on to help see the gabme out, hold the ball up make sure he didn't give it away cheaply and stretch the Newcastle defence so that they could not move forward loading easy balls into our box. Imo he failed in that short space of time to do just that. We need a fit Hooper including three fit strikers and let the boy out on loan. If he shapes up well he has a future if he's doesn't sell him move on we're not a second rate team and club anymore. Want to be a premier league club .......act like one move him on unless he shapes up on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I think he's got loads of talent but sometimes looks either lazy or absolutely knackered. Needs to work on his fitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 2 hours ago, Holmowl said: Either or both. Even to yourself, the idea that ff, will play anything but upfront, must be pure fantasy. CC's choices & signing suggest anything but. Do you really think ff, a total right footer who only plays left, to cut inside, will be switched to the rights or thar Reach an orthodox left footed winger will be? Fantasy holmowl. Bar injuries or sales it's difficult to see Hooper starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 1 hour ago, zzmdu said: Even to yourself, the idea that ff, will play anything but upfront, must be pure fantasy. CC's choices & signing suggest anything but. Do you really think ff, a total right footer who only plays left, to cut inside, will be switched to the rights or thar Reach an orthodox left footed winger will be? Fantasy holmowl. Bar injuries or sales it's difficult to see Hooper starting. Why such bitter dislike of Hooper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlandished Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 21 hours ago, Manila_Owl said: Get rid. He's not good enough. Three wins and three garbage performances. He's had a 'run' of three games and shown nothing. Absolutely nothing. If he can't score in this team then what chance has he got. You should not stand still even when winning, we need to start by replacing him. I don't think Joao will be going anywhere soon. Carlos got visibly narked when answering questions about Joao in a recent interview We are currently on one of, if not our best, run of games ever under Carlos and Lucas Joao has had more game time (around 70% of total available minutes) than even Kieran Lee, so he's contributing and no need to be jettisoned just yet He does look gangly, impudent, tends to celebrate with off-field compatriots (like Semedo) rather than with the others and cries when he loses a tooth, but he's not someone I'd want to see leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Just now, Holmowl said: Why such bitter dislike of Hooper? Oh dear! Im very happy to have Hooper back, in the squad. Might be useful from the bench. But it looks very unlikely, that Carlos will play ff, outside, especially on the right. The signing of reach & CM further strengthen us outwide. Joao & Hooper are good cover for ff & Fletcher. Really glad hooper is back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 He needs loaning out and seeing if he can re discover the player we know he can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 6 minutes ago, zzmdu said: Oh dear! Im very happy to have Hooper back, in the squad. Might be useful from the bench. But it looks very unlikely, that Carlos will play ff, outside, especially on the right. The signing of reach & CM further strengthen us outwide. Joao & Hooper are good cover for ff & Fletcher. Really glad hooper is back. Hoopers goal record, goals to starts is some thing like 38 starts 18 goals, it's more a question whether to start fletch of FF with him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Just now, punkassmofo said: Hoopers goal record, goals to starts is some thing like 38 starts 18 goals, it's more a question whether to start fletch of FF with him! I think not. Carlos' preferred front two is FF & Fletcher. Difficult to conclude otherwise. As you have the stats, please tell me how many wins has Hooper scored in this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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