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36 minutes ago, Holmowl said:

Half of you want to drop Hooper, the only player to have scored more than one goal in our last 18 aways.

 

He has scored 7.

 

Teams without a goal threat away from home lose more often than not. 

 

Its because he's a lazy poo. Rather have his goal threat for the last 20mins when he can be bothered.

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                 Westwood

 

Hutchinson Lees Loovens Pudil

 

                Lee Bannan

 

         Forestieri Abdi Reach

 

                   Fletcher

 

SUBS: Jones, Hooper, Palmer, Dawson, Wallace, Buckley, Nuhiu

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I don't know as I am not a stats man but I would guess most of the goals have come late in games when Carlos has decided we might as well attack for a bit.

 

You could certainly make an argument for saving Hooper for the last half hour blitz as we did with Nuhiu and Joao last season rather than letting him waste his energy first half chasing defenders about on the half way line

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58 minutes ago, oldishowl said:

I don't know as I am not a stats man but I would guess most of the goals have come late in games when Carlos has decided we might as well attack for a bit.

 

You could certainly make an argument for saving Hooper for the last half hour blitz as we did with Nuhiu and Joao last season rather than letting him waste his energy first half chasing defenders about on the half way line

you dont think the late goals may be down to the other sides being clapped out  by chasing the ball for most of the game ........nearly every game we have over 60%possesion thats a lot of running about for the opposites .

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Westwood

 

Palmer Lees Hutchinson pudil

 

Bannan jones lee reach

 

                 Fessi

 

               Fletcher

 

Or buckley on right but maybe keep it tight away Then get buckley on for jones/bannan, hooper on for pudil, joao on for fletch.

 

Think wallace will play and get subbed too late as ever after another ineffectual show

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39 minutes ago, torryowl said:

you dont think the late goals may be down to the other sides being clapped out  by chasing the ball for most of the game ........nearly every game we have over 60%possesion thats a lot of running about for the opposites .

 

I am sure some of it is down to us trying to keep possession and tire the opposition out but as we saw against Brighton you cannot give good sides an opportunity to boss the game

We don't play the same way first half and second half which is fine if you don't concede but if we decide to play a lot in our own half any mistakes can be costly.

We have a talented squad and I would like to see us go at teams a bit more from the start

 

 

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On 12 October 2016 at 17:11, SallyCinnamon said:

Westwood

 

Hunt Lees Hutchinson Pudil

 

Wallace Jones Lee Reach

 

Forestieri Fletcher

 

Subs:

Dawson, Palmer, Bannan, Abdi, Loovens, Joao, Hooper

I'd bring Buckley in for Wallace, apart from that, that's what I would go for.

 

I really think Bannan needs to drop out for a bit. 

 

I'm not optmistic for this game at all. Think we will get beaten comfortably. Things are just not right this season so far, hope I am wrong! 

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3 hours ago, Loughboro' Owl said:

                 Westwood

 

Hutchinson Lees Loovens Pudil

 

                Lee Bannan

 

         Forestieri Abdi Reach

 

                   Fletcher

 

SUBS: Jones, Hooper, Palmer, Dawson, Wallace, Buckley, Nuhiu

This would be my team too but Carlos will never play it!

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1 hour ago, oldishowl said:

 

I am sure some of it is down to us trying to keep possession and tire the opposition out but as we saw against Brighton you cannot give good sides an opportunity to boss the game

We don't play the same way first half and second half which is fine if you don't concede but if we decide to play a lot in our own half any mistakes can be costly.

We have a talented squad and I would like to see us go at teams a bit more from the start

 

 

Totally agree. 

 

We we have gone from slow, steady starts, to slow, poor starts. We are better than that. 

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12 hours ago, Stainless1983 said:

 

Its because he's a lazy poo. Rather have his goal threat for the last 20mins when he can be bothered.

 

Too true.

 

When he chased that lost cause against Cardiff for our second goal, when his quick free kick and 70 yards sprint at Birmingham and still maintained composure to slot past the goalie, when he chased down Villa's goalie on the opening day which caused the miss-kick leading to our goal...lazy poo.

 

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Away from home against a strong attacking team in form I think we have to strengthen midfield.

 

Carlos has to change it up away from home. Teams are starting to work us out.

 

Bannan has played twice for Scotland so give him a rest and put Hutch in front of back 4 so the full backs have a licence to get forward and he can cover.

 

4-3-3 going forward

4-5-1 when defending

 

             Westwood

Hunt - Lees - Loovens - Reach

             Hutchinson

         Lee              Abdi

Wallace                  Forestieri

              Fletcher 

 

 

This team wins!

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4 hours ago, Holmowl said:

 

Too true.

 

When he chased that lost cause against Cardiff for our second goal, when his quick free kick and 70 yards sprint at Birmingham and still maintained composure to slot past the goalie, when he chased down Villa's goalie on the opening day which caused the miss-kick leading to our goal...lazy poo.

 

 

I'm trying to understand your point?! He is lazy when he starts and I'm pretty sure most fans agree.

 

Occasionally he will start well but then fades quickly & appears to give up. When he comes on as a sub he is completely different & tries to the end, therefore I'd rather see us utilise him at his best. 

 

No one doubts his goal scoring ability which is probably one of the best in the country. But  there's a reason he got released by Norwich & a Premiership team didn't snap him up. 

 

If you only watch the highlights then any player looks good, that is true. Try watching the rest of the time he's on the pitch & you'll see.

 

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10 minutes ago, Stainless1983 said:

 

I'm trying to understand your point?! He is lazy when he starts and I'm pretty sure most fans agree.

 

Occasionally he will start well but then fades quickly & appears to give up. When he comes on as a sub he is completely different & tries to the end, therefore I'd rather see us utilise him at his best. 

 

No one doubts his goal scoring ability which is probably one of the best in the country. But  there's a reason he got released by Norwich & a Premiership team didn't snap him up. 

 

If you only watch the highlights then any player looks good, that is true. Try watching the rest of the time he's on the pitch & you'll see.

 

 

You see lazy. I see a very clever and wholehearted player. 

 

I also see that that he scores one in two, and that without him on the field we struggle to score anywhere near the amount of goals that will get us promoted.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Holmowl said:

 

You see lazy. I see a very clever and wholehearted player. 

 

I also see that that he scores one in two, and that without him on the field we struggle to score anywhere near the amount of goals that will get us promoted.

 

 

 

 

I appreciate his finishing and his link up play.

 

However he struggles to last 90 mins. 

As a team we create a lot more chances in the last 30 mins than we do in the first 60 and he will definitely have more chances to score late in the game

 

He started against Blackburn and Bristol and we didn't create a chance for him. Don't think he had a shot before going off. Don't blame him for this, it is the way we play for the first part of games.

It was similar for FF against Brighton.

 

Came off the bench against Brum and Brighton and scored

 

I would prefer Carlos to be more positive earlier but without that I would like a fresh Hooper last 30 mins

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On 10/12/2016 at 17:17, s6 owl said:

Westwood

 

palmer lees hutch pudil

 

forestieri jones lee reach

 

hooper fletcher 

that'll do for me with wallace & bannon on as subs in 75th minute as we protect a 1-0 lead..............

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Long time reader, (almost) first time poster...

 

Jones & Abdi need to start playing.   Otherwise why spend the combined 5-6m?  

 

I'd like to see them utilised in a more compact diamond midfield (or 433 depending on how you look at it) for a tough away game like this, with Hunt and Reach providing the width down the flanks and Hooper as the super sub.

 

                      Westwood

     Hunt     Lees    Hutch     Reach

                         Jones

             Lee                    Bannan

                          Abdi

             Fletcher   Forestieri

 

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