Anger as Pokemon Go uses SWFC Hillsborough memorial as 'Pokestop'

[@owlstalk]

So many people in this thread declaring they know for an absolute fact what caused the disaster yet unwilling to listen to or watch any other side of the discussion.

So sad to see.

Humans should be open to hearing both sides of a debate instead of just closing off saying 'blah blah blah' whilst putting their fingers in their ears.

Leads to a very ignorance society

[DeeJayOne]

Wow, the ignorance and utter bloodymindedness of some people never ceases to amaze me.

 

 

[bigthinrob]

1 minute ago, DeeJayOne said:

Wow, the ignorance and utter bloodymindedness of some people never ceases to amaze me.

 

 

The meek acceptance that 'officialdom' always come up with the correct answer never ceases to amaze me.

 

So we are told that this 'enquiry' is absolute gospel and beyond reproach and yet the original one is now not worth the paper its written on. 

 

At first you have a Pop at people for not having watched it and then have a pop because people who have watched it but STILL don't agree with your verdict are either ignorant or bloody minded.

 

I would have thought asking the question in relation to the whole day and not just the events immediately outside Leppings Lane was a reasonable point to make and would have led to the enquiry coming up with a much more balanced verdict, but by covering the whole day, other parties would have been dragged into the blame game and clearly this would not have been acceptable to said certain parties would it?  

 

Relating the question purely to the events outside the Leppings Lane clearly indicates SYPs shortcomings and only theirs. Which in my humble opinion is where they wanted the blame to lie.

 

 

 

 

[bigthinrob]

27 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

So many people in this thread declaring they know for an absolute fact what caused the disaster yet unwilling to listen to or watch any other side of the discussion.

So sad to see.

Humans should be open to hearing both sides of a debate saying 'blah blah blah' whilst putting their fingers in their ears.

Leads to a very ignorance society

Is this deliberate, albeit subtle irony?

[Orlando_Trustful]

Surprised this isn't all over Sky with their Liverpool love in. 

[DeeJayOne]

21 minutes ago, bigthinrob said:

The meek acceptance that 'officialdom' always come up with the correct answer never ceases to amaze me.

 

So we are told that this 'enquiry' is absolute gospel and beyond reproach and yet the original one is now not worth the paper its written on. 

 

At first you have a Pop at people for not having watched it and then have a pop because people who have watched it but STILL don't agree with your verdict are either ignorant or bloody minded.

 

I would have thought asking the question in relation to the whole day and not just the events immediately outside Leppings Lane was a reasonable point to make and would have led to the enquiry coming up with a much more balanced verdict, but by covering the whole day, other parties would have been dragged into the blame game and clearly this would not have been acceptable to said certain parties would it?  

 

Relating the question purely to the events outside the Leppings Lane clearly indicates SYPs shortcomings and only theirs. Which in my humble opinion is where they wanted the blame to lie.

 

 

 

 

 

I have also seen a significant amount of the evidence that was provided to the inquest, attended a part of it and have read the report, but hey... You keep assuming too, eh?

 

 

EDIT: Oh, yeah - and obviously spoken to many first-hand witnesses myself, including family who were outside Leppings Lane at the time.

 

Edited August 23, 2016 by DeeJayOne

[Orlando_Trustful]

25 minutes ago, bigthinrob said:

The meek acceptance that 'officialdom' always come up with the correct answer never ceases to amaze me.

 

So we are told that this 'enquiry' is absolute gospel and beyond reproach and yet the original one is now not worth the paper its written on. 

 

At first you have a Pop at people for not having watched it and then have a pop because people who have watched it but STILL don't agree with your verdict are either ignorant or bloody minded.

 

I would have thought asking the question in relation to the whole day and not just the events immediately outside Leppings Lane was a reasonable point to make and would have led to the enquiry coming up with a much more balanced verdict, but by covering the whole day, other parties would have been dragged into the blame game and clearly this would not have been acceptable to said certain parties would it?  

 

Relating the question purely to the events outside the Leppings Lane clearly indicates SYPs shortcomings and only theirs. Which in my humble opinion is where they wanted the blame to lie.

 

 

 

 

Hear, hear. 

[@owlstalk]

 

It's one of those arguments this that will NEVER end

There are those who are willing to hear both sides

And then there are the Sun readers 

 

[bigthinrob]

16 minutes ago, DeeJayOne said:

 

I have also seen a significant amount of the evidence that was provided to the inquest, attended a part of it and have read the report, but hey... You keep assuming too, eh?

 

 

"Assuming" what?

 

I referred to your quote about the enquiry's verdict only relating to events outside Leppings Lane rather than the entire events of the day.

 

I don't give a monkey's if you were camped out for the entire proceedings and have read the whole shooting match from start to finish.

 

That does not alter the fact that as you rightly say, the enquiry only refers to events outside Leppings Lane which inevitably results in certain findings.

 

Not sure why you would need to pore over bazillions of pounds worth of findings to understand, if you ask a specific question about specific events that form part of a much bigger picture, you will get the answer relating to the individual specific incident and not the answer that relates to the bigger picture. 

 

If you can't or more likely don't want to grasp this, then Hey... carry on preaching the gospel, eh?

Edited August 23, 2016 by bigthinrob

[lukestheman82]

6 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

It's one of those arguments this that will NEVER end

There are those who are willing to hear both sides

And then there are the Sun readers 

 

And then there are apologist Labour voters who won't admit Scouse fans do actually hold some portion of blame.

 

Easy this generalisation, isn't it.

[bigthinrob]

10 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

It's one of those arguments this that will NEVER end

There are those who are willing to hear both sides

And then there are the Sun readers 

 

That's just lazy!!

[@owlstalk]

 

 

You dumb ass fookwits can't even spot sarcastic comedy when it's in front of you

lol

[lukestheman82]

3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

You dumb ass fookwits can't even spot sarcastic comedy when it's in front of you

 

You dumb ass fookwits can't even spot sarcastic comedy when it's in front of you

you need it to work on the comedy element.

[@owlstalk]

2 minutes ago, lukestheman82 said:

you need it to work on the comedy element.

 

You're on your own with that opinion

Everyone knows I'm hilarious

 

[bigthinrob]

3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

You dumb ass fookwits can't even spot sarcastic comedy when it's in front of you

No it's clear to us dumb ass fookwits that it was 'sarcastic comedy' because of old Sid on the bottom.

 

 But Nah, still just lazy!!

 

Ps is sarcastic comedy something like a form of irony or am i thinking of satire?

[@owlstalk]

 

 

Christ...

This thread is painful

[vontemp]

Lovely to hear all this poo getting dragged up again.

 

[Tommo_]

2 hours ago, jambler said:

 

I could introduce you to around 50, probably double that people that can back up what other things happened that day, including what has already been mentioned. Including my family members. 

 

Can't be arsed to get into it though. 

 

 

But the initial tragedy was caused by impotent policing. Anything outside of that doesn't really matter.

[The only way is S6]

Pokemon though.   FFS.

[Birley Owl 1867]

Still don't get how one of the 3 major elements of the disaster has been made to be totally blameless, but that's just my opinion