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Ridiculous by syp

Football has moved on since then, but they are still sh*tting themselves about something happening and the subsequent bad press that would follow

All the while the club stands to lose money and fans fail to get tickets

Stupid

This. They really are pretty clueless and have been for a long time post disaster. Things like letting the away fans out straight away to making all traffic grind to a halt when they try and get busses away.

Yesterday was an over reaction to the whitewash midweek - and not needed for a taxi full of Cardiff fans (and stupid as they are)

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Yes to hooliganism - more outside the ground back in the day. The threat of it more but occasional moments.

The days when they marched the away fans from Wadsley Bridge station past all the pubs with the boards on the windows

But there was at least 8 police vans as I got to the ground. But those criticising the authorities after what has gone on this week really perhaps don't understand the significance if something untoward had happened

 

Somewhat patronising!

 

I think people are more than aware of the furore that would and no doubt will, at sometime in the future kick off as a result of anything that happens at Hillsborough.

 

Does that mean we have to live under some sort of permanent Police state that no one else has to put up with and does that also mean the over the top segregation policies (again that no one else has to endure) also have to permanently remain in place because certain media types with an agenda are just waiting to pounce and exploit the slightest 'issue'.

 

I'm not saying don't take the usual precautions other club's have in place, but i think it's time to move on and fight our corner accordingly, if or when a situation ever arises.

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Just the usual complete over reaction by SY Plod

They really are pathetic

Last week an inquest gave a verdict on the death of ninety six football fans, at Hillsborough, in 1989. If you or anybody else thinks that the club, and South Yorkshire Police are not going to be over cautious when it comes to crowd safety/segregation etc at Hillsborough you are deluded. If twenty seven years ago, the club and the police had performed their duties correctly, they wouldn't take precautions to extremes today.

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Last week an inquest gave a verdict on the death of ninety six football fans, at Hillsborough, in 1989. If you or anybody else thinks that the club, and South Yorkshire Police are not going to be over cautious when it comes to crowd safety/segregation etc at Hillsborough you are deluded. If twenty seven years ago, the club and the police had performed their duties correctly, they wouldn't take precautions to extremes today.

so things haven't changed in 27 years then?
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so things haven't changed in 27 years then?

police attitudes to heavy criticism hasn't...

you can understand what the fallout would have been IF something had kicked off, and the police were under numbered on the day...

when you're not paying for it yourself, a thousand too many is better than one short...

this might be a vision of the future for sheffield ratepayers...

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Can the club turn down SAG advice?

The restrictions (segregation etc) and policing yesterday was clearly very heavy. We can't proceed like that and shouldn't for the playoffs.

No. Despite being called 'advisory' the clubs public liability insurance will require approval by the council licensing and the police. Event can't be staged without insurance.

The best thing the club could do is publish exactly what the decisions are and explain why.

Is it a segregation concern? Is it concourse space? Is it fire evacuation? And why it's different from previous occasions e.g Wycombe, etc..

Just need be transparent about it. Otherwise we just get nonsense threads like this over and over and over and over again with everyone getting annoyed.

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SAG...Sheffield Advisory Group or Sheffield Authoritarian Group ?  Where's our advice other than you can't do this and that. Surely in the interim advice from SAG where we could build a couple of gated walls giving access and exit via North and South Stands would solve the problem of segregation. 

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Hillsborough is one of the most chilled out grounds to watch football , very rarely any bother. Syp really are a disgrace and a complete farce . Not selling tickets in the leppings la e end , fire hazard in the north stand, who actually comes up with this guff? Between them and the safety advisory muppets , it's like a competition who can be the biggest joke and who can get the most wrong

 

Spot on mate 

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Strangely in doesn't appear to be about numbers...the Wycombe game a case in point.

As with the 1989 semi when the assumption by the police was that hooliganism was the cause and dogs instead of ambulances would resolve the situation, this still bizarrely seems to be the 'driver' for the heavy presence and segregation. This not the 1980's, people have allocated seats and crowd management has, at least in other parts of the country, moved on.

I can understand caution by the authorities but this seems to be misplaced especially now the police cover up is confirmed.

Whichever way you look at, and with an understanding that lies and crowd management were the issues, the precautions are still a bloody nonsense....

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SYP keep getting a lot of stick and I'm certainly not here to defend them.

However, we spoke to a few before the game as they were in the queue for the toilet in the Leppings Lane garage and these had all been drafted in from Middlesbrough.

Either this is common practice, SYP'S resources are stretched or they cannot be trusted to police games by themselves?

 

I wouldnt trust SYP  to police my back garden 

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Last week an inquest gave a verdict on the death of ninety six football fans, at Hillsborough, in 1989. If you or anybody else thinks that the club, and South Yorkshire Police are not going to be over cautious when it comes to crowd safety/segregation etc at Hillsborough you are deluded. If twenty seven years ago, the club and the police had performed their duties correctly, they wouldn't take precautions to extremes today.

 

Cobblers 

 

Dont keep using what happened 27 years ago as an excuse to stop the club using the full capacity. 

 

Yesterday was totally over the top and un- necessary by the keystone cops at SYP 

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