sherlyegg Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 We are 1/200 to make the playoffs. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richowl Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 We are 1/200 to make the playoffs. Just sayin. you bookie is taking the wee wee out of you 1/10 @ bet365 & cardiff 6/1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Good point for us today that, regardless of what Cardiff did. We'll beat them next weekend, no dramas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling Wolfe Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 They have to come at us next week and that's when we pick them off. The first goal will be all too important and if we get it their heads will drop. We will not lose next week. BELIEVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richowl Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Wrong. If we had lost today they would now be 3 points behind us. They win next week were level Final day we lose they draw they finish above us Our point today means a point final day is no good for Cardiff. if we'd lost today & drawn v Cardiff the best they could hope for was finishing on level points with us...... resulting us finishing above them on goal difference....You'll get it soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Yep my mistake 1/10...mugs though are tempted at 6/1 Cardiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richowl Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Yep my mistake 1/10...mugs though are tempted at 6/1 Cardiffodds were 1/66 & 10/1 before todays game...Beat us next week & the 10/1 / 6/1 will look very generous. Let's hope were up for it!!!! But Cardiff didn't draw. Anyone who can't see our point today was valuable as it turned out are very dense Where did I say cardiff drew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 odds were 1/66 & 10/1 before todays game... Beat us next week & the 10/1 / 6/1 will look very generous. Let's hope were up for it!!!! Where did I say cardiff drew? If we do lose next week, then the point gained a at Derby could be very important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyowl123 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 We'll be reyt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelswfc Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Makes the point gained today even more important. A great atmosphere needed on Saturday but no doubt in my mind that we will do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richowl Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 If we do lose next week, then the point gained a at Derby could be very important. Why? Before today's game we were 6 clear (7!!!! With goal difference).... They win today & final day =6 points...... They draw with us = 1 point .....EACH..... The worst case outcome with these results (if we had lost today!!!!) Was finishing level on points...... =us in 6th on goal difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride_of_the_road Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/cardiff-city/10255513/cardiff-2-1-bolton Was it even in the box? How does Boltons number 30 miss that one in one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richowl Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Explain to Rich poor lad dunt get it You need help trying to explain it yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LampsJnr Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Why? Before today's game we were 6 clear (7!!!! With goal difference).... They win today & final day =6 points...... They draw with us = 1 point .....EACH..... The worst case outcome with these results (if we had lost today!!!!) Was finishing level on points...... =us in 6th on goal difference. What if they beat us though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richowl Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 What if they beat us though? That's the whole 'debate'.they need to win their last 3 games regardless of what we do in our other 2 games (today & wolves) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Big deal, we're better than them and we'll beat them next Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LampsJnr Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 That's the whole 'debate'.they need to win their last 3 games regardless of what we do in our other 2 games (today & wolves) Why are you finding this so difficult? If we had lost today the gap would be 3 points. If Cardiff beat us and drew the last game that's 4 points. So not 2 wins at all, our point today and goal difference means they have to win both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) You need help trying to explain it yourself If we were 3 points up and cardiff win (v us). Then its equal. A cardiff point v brum & we lose, then cardiff in. Thats when todays point is the decider. Edited April 23, 2016 by zzmdu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richowl Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) If we were 3 points and cardiff win (v us). Then its equal. A cardiff point v brum & we lose, then cardiff in. Thats when todays point is the decider. The point I was making was if we avoid defeat v cardiff our other results become irrelevant. This is the crucial match. Cardiff have to win & no permatation including the other games would make a difference. If we'd lost today & draw against Cardiff they couldn't catch us. Obviously if they won all 3 they'd be above us (if we didn't win at wolves) & if we'd matched their result today it would have been over. Edited April 23, 2016 by richowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyowl123 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Scenario 1: Derby 1-1 SWFC Cardiff 2-1 Bolton 6th SWFC - 71pts - +19GD 7th Cardiff - 67pts - +8GD SWFC 0-3 Cardiff 6th SWFC - 71pts - +16GD 7th Cardiff - 70pts - +11GD Scenario 2: Derby 2-1 SWFC Cardiff 2-1 Bolton 6th SWFC - 70pts - +18GD 7th Cardiff - 67pts - +8GD SWFC 0-3 Cardiff 6th SWFC - 70pts - +15GD 7th Cardiff - 70pts - +11GD Scenario 1 - with us drawing today and losing 3-0 to Cardiff - means that even if we lose against wolves a draw is not good enough for Cardiff final day, unless we lose by 6 goals. Scenario 2 - with us losing today and then losing 3-0 to Cardiff - would mean that if we lost to Wolves Cardiff could draw on the final day and go up. Of course, we're going to batter Cardiff anyway, so it's all irrelevant. But in short, yes a point today could prove to be a valuable one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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