The Dukeries Owl Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Hahaha yes and I put an "are" instead of an "is" somewhere too. Typing quickly while eating was always asking for trouble, although dead people do deserve justice too and there are worse crimes than bad grammar. Oops nearly hit a pedestrian there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ante's Bubbly Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 GRAMMAR 2.jpg Sorry, I should of noun better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgund Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Do clubs have to check manually if their players are suspended or not? Don't they have like a big computer in the manager's office and it is like football manager when the player is suspended you can't pick him and he has a red next to his name? Imagine trying to pick a team and not knowing if a player was suspended or not without the aid of a computer. scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Well if we can appeal, then it would be done straight away as its cast iron certainty to be successful. Everyone has come out on our favour because we can't appeal, they did on the TV, pundits, ex refs literally everyone has sympathy. If we could simply appeal why has not one person come out and said "surely they will appeal"? I may be wrong here, but as I understand it there's a difference between appealing and the card/suspension being rescinded. I thought the 'appeal' is a specific process that the club can action in certain instances - this not being one of them. However, the FA can still choose to overturn/rescind if they have compelling evidence (and probably some kind of involvement from the referee involved). Again, I might be wrong, but that's how I assumed it to be. The FA can overturn/rescind, but Wednesday can't specifically put in an appeal for them to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 I may be wrong here, but as I understand it there's a difference between appealing and the card/suspension being rescinded. I thought the 'appeal' is a specific process that the club can action in certain instances - this not being one of them. However, the FA can still choose to overturn/rescind if they have compelling evidence (and probably some kind of involvement from the referee involved). Again, I might be wrong, but that's how I assumed it to be. The FA can overturn/rescind, but Wednesday can't specifically put in an appeal for them to do so. Yep, this was my understanding too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_W_F_C Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I may be wrong here, but as I understand it there's a difference between appealing and the card/suspension being rescinded. I thought the 'appeal' is a specific process that the club can action in certain instances - this not being one of them. However, the FA can still choose to overturn/rescind if they have compelling evidence (and probably some kind of involvement from the referee involved). Again, I might be wrong, but that's how I assumed it to be. The FA can overturn/rescind, but Wednesday can't specifically put in an appeal for them to do so. Seems a common sense approach and it hope that's correct. But on the basis totes best of my knowledge this nobody has ever had two yellow cards/a red card rescinded I just wonder why this is. There must have been similar grounds in the past I am sure the league will have some exceptional circumstances caviat built in should they choose to use it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papalazarowl Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 The FA won't do a thing, it will set a precedent and open it up for a mountain of claims by lots of clubs every monday morning, they don't want to admit their refs get lots wrong (even though everyone else knows it) barring the odd straight red card being rescinded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) Seems a common sense approach and it hope that's correct. But on the basis totes best of my knowledge this nobody has ever had two yellow cards/a red card rescinded I just wonder why this is. There must have been similar grounds in the past I am sure the league will have some exceptional circumstances caviat built in should they choose to use it though You could be correct with the knowledge of it never having happened before (the overturning of a second yellow/red), but do we know of instances where the details have been the same? For example, 1) the second yellow was, specifically, for simulation, and 2) the evidence that the other party (Dawson, in this case) has gone on record to say he did make contact? I'm not saying it'll definitely make a difference, but combined with the relatively high media profile that this case has had, perhaps it'll be enough to sway the FA. Edited February 29, 2016 by punkskaphil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oasisowl81 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Remember the Huddersfield farce on Sky, that didn't get overturned and worked in our favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibbo48 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 The FA won't do a thing, it will set a precedent and open it up for a mountain of claims by lots of clubs every monday morning, they don't want to admit their refs get lots wrong (even though everyone else knows it) barring the odd straight red card being rescinded. Absolutely this. I'll be amazed if they do anything at all apart from having a word with the ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredmciverslovechild Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Sorry but zero chance of having it overturned. If anything was going to be done it would have been done by now.....we now start on a new round of matches and that story will quickly become last week's news. And even Robinson has some more poor buggers to ref.....at Crawley tomorrow. But I think the rule will be changed at the end of the season to make an appeal against a second yellow possible. Definitely not mid-season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 To say the decision was a very poor one indeed would be an understatement, given the admission by Dawson that he actually made contact with FF. Even so I can't see them changing their minds on this as it will open up a can of worms for them. Interesting that a clear dive in yesterday's showpiece cup final went unpunished. Must be a different set of rules for Premier clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumboldowl Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) To say the decision was a very poor one indeed would be an understatement, given the admission by Dawson that he actually made contact with FF. Even so I can't see them changing their minds on this as it will open up a can of worms for them. Interesting that a clear dive in yesterday's showpiece cup final went unpunished. Must be a different set of rules for Premier clubs. The different rules are enshrined into the agreement between the Premiership and the TV companies, and are meticulously applied by the Super grade refs. Edited February 29, 2016 by dumboldowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Sorry but zero chance of having it overturned. If anything was going to be done it would have been done by now.....we now start on a new round of matches and that story will quickly become last week's news. And even Robinson has some more poor buggers to ref.....at Crawley tomorrow. But I think the rule will be changed at the end of the season to make an appeal against a second yellow possible. Definitely not mid-season though. Crawley is in West Sussex. Tim Robinson is refereeing their home match tomorrow night, and he's based in...West Sussex. How is this allowed to happen? Is it to save cash on expenses because he can cadge a lift to the game with his neighbour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I am convinced that a precedent has been set for this. I thought in the last couple of seasons there had been a similar sending off for two yellows where it was obviously a mistake. I thought the FA said player only had to serve one match ban instead of the two matches the player should have got. I am convinced. Was it a Wolves player? Not sure on that. Crawley is in West Sussex. Tim Robinson is refereeing their home match tomorrow night, and he's based in...West Sussex. How is this allowed to happen? Is it to save cash on expenses because he can cadge a lift to the game with his neighbour? He's probably a Brighton fan then. Just saying....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farlego Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Hypothetically speaking, I wonder what would have happened if the ref had rushed up to FF like he did, brandished his cards only to find FF had broken his leg or was seriously injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I am convinced that a precedent has been set for this. I thought in the last couple of seasons there had been a similar sending off for two yellows where it was obviously a mistake. I thought the FA said player only had to serve one match ban instead of the two matches the player should have got. I am convinced. Was it a Wolves player? Not sure on that. He's probably a Brighton fan then. Just saying....... If and I don't think he did give a decision to favour another team then he would be stupid as eventually his actions would get the better of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BaRmY OwLs Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Remember the Huddersfield farce on Sky, that didn't get overturned and worked in our favour. Totally different scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Remember the Huddersfield farce on Sky, that didn't get overturned and worked in our favour.What was this farceM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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