twolaptops Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) TV evidence can be examined to BAN a player..........cannot be examined to UN-BAN a player..............stupid. FF should say he is considering suing him personally for defamation of character unless he revokes the 2nd card Edited February 29, 2016 by twolaptops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzy85 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Its simple for me, the F.A should ask him do you want to make amends for this error? If he says no the F.A should say that's fine we will stand by you, but you wont be refereeing again this season Exactly. if he hasn't got the rounduns to admit he made a mistake then he does'nt have the rounduns (or composure) to make the big decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 The fact that this has occurred twice in two games, both very dubious, Resulting in loss of services for three games makes this very different indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMOwl72 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Be very surprised if ban is overturned. The ref must have to refer to an error in his report I would have thought. Like turkeys voting for Xmas - can't see him doing this if he wants to progress up refereeing career ladder. The club have rightly raised this with FA that's all that they can do (as well no doubt speaking with the ref after the game and asking him to review his decision). Good to see all the media reaction in our favour but it won't influence anything in terms of FFs ban. I just hope the ref is shafted and isn't given another high level game for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodfather Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Because the injustice has happened to us we want a rule change mid season. Imagine the other clubs reactions for what is no more than a poor refereeing decision. Happens 100s of times a season And that's the crux of it right there. If the FA do anything other than impose a 2 game ban on FF, how many other Clubs are going to turn round and say "hang on, what about our player who got a second yellow that he shouldn't have earlier this season...but it wasn't live on Sky and we don't have 30k+ fans to complain about it?". It'd be chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_W_F_C Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 And that's the crux of it right there. If the FA do anything other than impose a 2 game ban on FF, how many other Clubs are going to turn round and say "hang on, what about our player who got a second yellow that he shouldn't have earlier this season...but it wasn't live on Sky and we don't have 30k+ fans to complain about it?". It'd be chaos. Glad someone else can see this. It's an injustice, it happens, accept it and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Because the injustice has happened to us we want a rule change mid season. Imagine the other clubs reactions for what is no more than a poor refereeing decision. Happens 100s of times a season You're gonna be absolutely gutted if he plays on Saturday aren't you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzy85 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 There needs to be a rule change and this is the case that will probably do it. But sorry it can't be done mid season. Take your blue and white glasses off and you know that's right Why can't it be changed. It's not really that difficult. "poo poo we made a boo boo and can see that the rule is a little silly. So from now on a red card resulting from 2 yellows can be reviewed and rescinded in the same way a straight red can. Also we understand the Mr Robinson made a serious roger up so will be fined a weeks wages and won't ref a game for the next month......and we'll get his bloody eyes tested as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_W_F_C Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 You're gonna be absolutely gutted if he plays on Saturday aren't you Idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_W_F_C Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Why can't it be changed. It's not really that difficult. "poo poo we made a boo boo and can see that the rule is a little silly. So from now on a red card resulting from 2 yellows can be reviewed and rescinded in the same way a straight red can. Also we understand the Mr Robinson made a serious roger up so will be fined a weeks wages and won't ref a game for the next month......and we'll get his bloody eyes tested as well!" So what happens if there was a similar injustice in say L2 or the conference in let's say November last year, something that wasn't in the media much. How do you think that club would feel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickjj Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Be very surprised if ban is overturned. The ref must have to refer to an error in his report I would have thought. Like turkeys voting for Xmas - can't see him doing this if he wants to progress up refereeing career ladder. The club have rightly raised this with FA that's all that they can do (as well no doubt speaking with the ref after the game and asking him to review his decision). Good to see all the media reaction in our favour but it won't influence anything in terms of FFs ban. I just hope the ref is shafted and isn't given another high level game ever There edited it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 It shouldnt matter what the referee's report has said now that the player in question has admitted the foul. He's got a black mark himself now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodfather Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Why can't it be changed. It's not really that difficult. "poo poo we made a boo boo and can see that the rule is a little silly. So from now on a red card resulting from 2 yellows can be reviewed and rescinded in the same way a straight red can. Also we understand the Mr Robinson made a serious roger up so will be fined a weeks wages and won't ref a game for the next month......and we'll get his bloody eyes tested as well!" I think it can be changed. And it absolutely should be changed. But at the end of the season. If you change the rule now, then football stops being a level playing field this season. How many other teams this season have had players sent off for 2 yellows when at least one of them was due to a refereeing mistake? I don't know the answer to that, but I bet there's been at least one. And that player will have already sat out his suspension...and that team will have already played a game (or two) without that player. What if they lost? What if that team misses out on promotion/playoffs/safety by a couple of points? As I say...potential chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harribo Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 So what happens if there was a similar injustice in say L2 or the conference in let's say November last year, something that wasn't in the media much. How do you think that club would feel? Pleased it won't ever happen again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) So what happens if there was a similar injustice in say L2 or the conference in let's say November last year, something that wasn't in the media much. How do you think that club would feel? I agree its a long shot that the 2 yellows rule would be changed now. But it often takes something more high profile and with media attention to change a rule. Its a shame, but thats how it is. Just like the time Mick McCarthy ran onto the pitch to lynch Simek on an untelevised game. Had it been in the Premier league or on TV he'd have been in hot water. I dont think its about the two yellows rule, its more about the accusation associated with diving which is a separate element to the game that they need to get a grip on. I think this could separate the case from setting a precedent other instances of incorrect bookings Edited February 29, 2016 by Bluesteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelswfc Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Good for the club to flag it up, even if it doesn't really do anything. Also not even to get Forestieri back but just to stop something like this happening for anyone in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_W_F_C Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 So if Rhodes gets sent off in the play off semi final for a total unjust situation like this, he appeals and gets over turned and he can play against us in the final. None of us would be screaming from the roof tops then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ante's Bubbly Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Comments about having to change the rules for us to rescind a yellow card are of course a load of bollards. Yellow cards can be rescinded when the referee has made an obvious mistake and have been in the past so precedent has been set. In this case, the player booked for diving did not dive, the player that fouled him admitted that he fouled him, both managers agree that a foul was committed and not a dive and the foul that was committed has been punished by a red card in the past so why not rally to get Dawson the red card he deserves and then get FF's card rescinded as a natural course of events ie the offence cannot be punishable twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 The incident at Guiseley on Saturday is getting more coverage now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 So if Rhodes gets sent off in the play off semi final for a total unjust situation like this, he appeals and gets over turned and he can play against us in the final. None of us would be screaming from the roof tops then? We'd be pretty dissapointed that he would be able to play, but for footballing reasons. If the correct mechanism was in place and it was proven he was wrongly sent off we couldnt complain could we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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