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As I've said before we should fight this all the way.

Kick up a massive fuss and take legal advice and action if necessary. I know some of you will say that's pathetic and something the Grunters but why should we accept this?

If it was just a yellow then fair enough I'd say forget it (and we'd have to) but the fact that this yellow just happens to bring a 2 game ban is just wrong.

Everyone knows it was wrong and if the ref is so gutless that he can't admit it then I hope he gets thrown on the scrapheap. Would Man U, Chelsea, City etc roll over and accept it? Would they b0ll0x.

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I believe (as Laurie Madden does earlier in thread) that it is possible for a referee

to rescind a booking in his post match report to the football league.

 

He really should in this case  -  but will he?

 

DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH!!!!

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Did his reputation have any bearing on his being sent off?  Or did the ref just get it wrong?

 

It's the whole "ref's talk" thing.  They network / socialise and talk about clubs and players.  For us, this will focus on Nuihu and Forestieri, mainly, I would suggest.

 

The conversations go roughly like "you need to watch out for x / y - when he was at Watford he did this/that ..."     "watch their big guy up front, he's about 6ft 8" backs in a lot / encourages the defender to foul him... he'll be flapping his arms around a lot and holding his head in his hands - just ignore him - the more you give him the more he won't stand up. Also - he rarely jumps - just watch him".    

 

So these pre-conceived ideas / warnings are in their heads before they even walk onto the pitch, it's something of a "losing battle" from there on in.

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I hope Mr Robinson can do the right thing. However, I believe the issues cut a lot deeper than a mistaken yellow card issue.

 

My belief is that the issue of diving ( The RA can invent all the posh words they want, 'SIMULATION' ) Diving is diving. Has been taken on board by the RA ( Referees Association) as long as 7 or 8 years ago. We all know who the main culprits have been and there has been a kid gloves treatment offered both on and off the pitch.

 

There is an obvious conflict of interest in as much as the RA want to see fair play and sound refereeing decisions. Whereas, those who play the piper, Sky TV want to see their superstars on the pitch. The RA recognise this and my belief is that a 'What to do Meeting' by the RA has taken on board a philosophy of moving onto softer lower profile targets where Fessi fits the bill perfectly.

 

My only evidence of this wild accusation ( I know) is the way Robinson sprinted past Dawson, who was begging not to be shown a card of either colour, totally ignoring the fact, determined to set the example that had been discussed at a prior RA meeting. 

 

Be interested to here other constructive views.   

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Remember someone suggesting a while back that referees should have a press conference. Could help with issues like this.

It really wouldn't 

 

When they tried it it was ok at first then everyone went onto to slating every minute decision as now 

 

What could he say ? 

 

"I thought he dived" 

 

"Well you're wrong" 

 

"Ok"

 

Nothing in it for the refs especially in this situation  

 

whats achieved ? he knows by now he was wrong, he knew Friday night 

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It really wouldn't 

 

When they tried it it was ok at first then everyone went onto to slating every minute decision as now 

 

What could he say ? 

 

"I thought he dived" 

 

"Well you're wrong" 

 

"Ok"

 

Nothing in it for he refs especially in this situation  

 

whats achieved ? he knows by now he was wrong, he knew Friday night 

I get your point. I guess it could also turn into a chance for the ref to say sorry a million times as well.

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I get your point. I guess it could also turn into a chance for the ref to say sorry a million times as well.

And i get yours 

 

If it could be done in a proper way it would be brilliant but Sky don't want everyone agreeing they want to stick a mike under the refs nose ask him the question then have di ckheads like Beagrie rip him to bits .

I wouldn't agree to that set up either if i were a Ref

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I believe the only reason a yellow can be rescinded is for mistaken identity. However, I've got a distant memory of an arsenal or chelsea player who got booked for something and they rescinded it cos it was plainly wrong. Think it was a European game. Anyone?

Try it on a technicality, it was mistaken identity as he booked the wrong bloody player!

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And i get yours

If it could be done in a proper way it would be brilliant but Sky don't want everyone agreeing they want to stick a mike under the refs nose ask him the question then have di ckheads like Beagrie rip him to bits .

I wouldn't agree to that set up either if i were a Ref

I know it's not the same thing but last season sky had Howard Webb in the studio for Monday night football, and they ran through a few dodgy decisions.

All he came out with was "the ref probably didn't have a clear view" , "he wasn't fully up with play so couldn't be 100% certain". Total waste of time, and some of them where clearly wrong.

Btsport now use him and he's allot better didn't make excuses and clearly says yep the ref got it wrong.

If we had referees explaining their decisions it would just be them reeling of a set script of answers that would cover all situations.

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I mentioned in another thread about the forth official having a live feed of the game on a monitor by the touchline ,so he can see instant replays of incidents ,and can speak to the ref through a headset to tell him if he has missed something or got one wrong. 

 

Apart from holding up the board with added time on ,and sorting out the subs, the forth official just stands there for 90 minutes watching the game, so he should be put to good use to help the ref. 

 

This would cut out the bad errors like Fessi`s red card. 

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As I've said before we should fight this all the way.

Kick up a massive fuss and take legal advice and action if necessary. I know some of you will say that's pathetic and something the Grunters but why should we accept this?

If it was just a yellow then fair enough I'd say forget it (and we'd have to) but the fact that this yellow just happens to bring a 2 game ban is just wrong.

Everyone knows it was wrong and if the ref is so gutless that he can't admit it then I hope he gets thrown on the scrapheap. Would Man U, Chelsea, City etc roll over and accept it? Would they b0ll0x.

Well said Pal.

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I genuinely can't think of a case being so clear.

The sending off doesn't really matter. But now banning him for 2 games knowing that this decision was incorrect is just plain daft, like, nonsensical.

It makes a mockery of the entire system, and does nothing more than make players, clubs, managers and fans more annoyed with the 'closed door' nature of the referees group than before.

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